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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:07 PM Original message |
Poll question: OK, Colin Powell for VP, yes or no (and why). |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. If Obama chooses him, I'll support it. That's pretty much how I'll feel about anybody-- |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. Any repug for vp would be a deal breaker for me...when I vote |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Well, that is certainly your right. Myself, I take a very broad view of |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. He's a war criminal?! |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. He RESIGNED because he REALIZED Booshe fucked him over. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. He's not a hero because he NEVER spoke out. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Agree -- |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. We did trust him. We all said he was the sane one out of the crew... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yep. A lot of us wanted to like and trust him and he betrayed that. n/t |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. yep. I think he was a reason some senators voted for IWR |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
65. He'd have to make good before I'd vote for him. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. If he DID resign, he did it three years after he sat in on torture making policy |
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az chela (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. He is no hero,he is a traitor,plain and simple |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. No he didn't. He resigned because they forced him out when they were done with him. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. He and Tenet lost a war to Cheney and Rumsfeld. That's about it. n/t |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. He lied .... |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. No. He "resigned" at the request of the White House in Nov 2004. He was fired. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
70. You have veen here since 2002 and you... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
78. He resigned 2 years too late. He should have resigned BEFORE the UN presentation. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
84. HE KNEW HE WAS LYING AT THE TIME. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
122. No War Criminals for Veep. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. He already sold his soul and never fought out against the |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. Any reason why you think he's qualified? |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. Not unless he comes out with |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. No - he's a traitor, and choosing a Rep. veep would put Obama in danger... |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. You're kidding, right? nt |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. The My Lai massacre and the bogus UN Iraq report. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. "Highly suspect"? |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
105. I'm sorry you are apparently uninformed about Powell's history. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. He tried to block the My Lai investigations. That's true. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
114. I haven't heard a single Powell promoter credibly defend his role in My Lai. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm in the minority here but I respect Colin and would welcome him as a VP. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. You respect what he did at the UN with his little vial? UGH! nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Cute. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. What do you mean it's fucked up? |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. But he's a Republican hawk. Yeah for the new politics! |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. He's not really a big hawk. He doesn't seem to love war for the sake of war-- |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Worse than an honest hawk, he's a whore. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Exactly. nt |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. In my opinion, he's a good little general--and that's what he was doing |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. My grandfather was a general. He knew the difference between a lawful order |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Well, I'm not sure that Powell did, at the time. It's very hard to see |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Long before that, he tried to block any investigation of My Lai. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Yes, I've heard about the allegations of a My Lai coverup. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. He tried to tank the whistleblower. If you can put lipstick on that, |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Not trying to put lipstick on it, just trying to be fair without having heard |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I Remember Way Back During Viet Nam... And sfexpat 2000 You Are CORRECT!!! n/t |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. State Dept had its own intel shop whose findings contradicted administration's claims re: much of |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
74. Awww, SNAP! |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. Oh good grief. "If he's willing to redeem himself" indeed! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
85. You always tell the truth "bye"? |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
129. I agree, but I think he may not be the smartest VP choice and I hate to say why |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. No for too many reasons |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. He lied to us about WMD's |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Who do you think GAVE him that information??? |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
72. His own State INR (and others) contradicted the WMD claims Powell publically supported. |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. Uh, knowingly sitting at the UN and lying his ass off about WMD |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
25. NO: 1) He's damaged goods. 2) Need racial balance on the ticket. NT |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. Not on the ticket but |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
29. No. He should have spoken out... |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
30. Obama/Cheney! Go Cheney! Bricka bracka firecracker sis boom bah! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
104. Good one. nt |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
31. He KNEW the PNAC case for war was bullshit, and he lied to the UN anyway. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
35. WOW, can-o-worms, color me surprised |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
36. I say you're DainBramaged. |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
41. An endorsement I'd accept...VP? HELL NO!!! |
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World Citizen (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
44. IF |
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democraticjohn (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
45. No! He had his chance to be the ONLY Republican I might have voted for in 2000! |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
47. Powell has zero credibility since his performance at the U.N. |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
48. I like Powell but I think he's a bad choice for VP |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
52. he lied for Bush on WMDS |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
54. "Cause he still hasn't turned states evidence on these assholes |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
59. Re Powell |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
60. self delete dupe |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
61. No. Among other things, he's a Republican. |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
63. If he switches parties . He was always about a 52-48 R-D. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. But Powell was instrumental in supporting/promulgating a policy that made us less safe. n/t |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
66. Can somebody direct me to Democratic Underground? |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I am sitting here totally stunned... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
107. Everytime I come here |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
117. If I find it I'll give you directiosn |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
67. HELL no. He's a spineless traitor, oh. ... .. . AND HE'S A REPUBLICAN |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
68. I voted you are brain damaged. |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
71. Interesting results on your poll |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
73. He went in front of the fucking UN and repeated that bullshit about |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
75. Republican? Check. Baldfaced Liar? Check. War Criminal? Check. |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
77. no for all of the blatantly obvious reasons. this is not going to happen, nor should it. |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
79. He showed bad judgement, no thanks. |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
80. Hell-to-the-NO! |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
81. Please step away from the bong |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Don't insult the herb like that! The rest of us who partake don't support WAR CRIMINALS. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
82. WOW, so, what do you all do if he becomes VP, quit the Democratic party? |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. And the odds of that happening? Where do you even get the idea that it's a likely, viable or |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Did I say I belong to his fan club, NO, did I apologize for him, NO |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. But...but...in post #3 you said Powell was a "hero!" |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
102. When a Republican ends up on a Democratic ticket, it stops being the Democratic party |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
83. Uh, NO, because he's a FUCKING WAR CRIMINAL WHO HELPED LIE US INTO WAR? |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
87. Are you NUTS! |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. It is a legitimate question, and no I'm not nuts |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
88. Answer: NO ... Reason: HE'S A FUCKING REPUBLICAN! |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
92. He's a repug (albeit a nice one), and this is still Amerikkka |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
93. are you fucking kidding me?! |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
94. I really dislike this guy. He was the ONLY repub to fool me into thinking he cared. |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
95. What a sickening idea....Bush made Powell his "bitch" and you want us to make him vp? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 06:51 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. (sigh) I ASKED a poll question dumbass, I am not running for office. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. Since you are calling people names |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #99 |
119. (sigh) Apparently, fuckhead, the vast majority of DUers agree with me, not you on Colon Powell |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
96. No no no no no no no and no! He had his chance to put his country before his party at the UN |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
98. No, he is not even remotely under consideration. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
100. Are we out of Qualified DEMOCRATS? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
101. Voted 'no.' |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
103. No. He's a Republican, which means that ticket loses my vote. nt |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
106. There are thousands of Democratic politicians who could be better VPs. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
108. Almost as many people think I'm Bramaged as want him as VP |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
110. just as soon as he turns up those mobile weapon labs then I am ok with him |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
111. NO, unless he switches parties. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. Even then - NO with this one |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
112. Military VP should be Wes Clark; Powell's been a Bush family enabler for decades now... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
113. THIS IS A BULLSHIT POOL - WE SHOULD NOT BE ADVOCATING REPUKE VPS |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
116. Far too cowardly. No way! |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
118. Don't forget guyz, Gore did choose Lieberman as his VP. - meaning |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. Yes, but back then Lieberman wasn't an Independent. He would never make the ticket now. (n/t) |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. Lieberman supported NOT recounting Dade county (a Democratic Fl. County in 2000) |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Ah, but he was already on the ticket at that time, no? He showed his true colors even then. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #118 |
125. LIEBERMAN WAS A DEMOCRAT AND THERE WAS NO WAR IN IRAQ |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
120. One of the architects of Iraq? Fuck, no. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
121. Mai Lai? Iraq? Unethical liar!!! n/t |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
123. NO REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ON THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TICKET - CAPICHE? (n/t) |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-21-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Totally agree. Powell chose to serve Bush/Cheney instead of his country. |
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