McCain said, knowing what he knows now, he'd STILL invade Iraq. WHO'S the one with bad judgment?

[jenmito]

If anyone is watching the cable news shows, you'd see McCain and his surrogates are all saying Obama has shockingly bad judgment for saying he'd oppose the surge knowing what he knows today. Has everybody in the media forgotten that McCain said he'd still invade Iraq knowing what he knows now? The MSM lets the McCain surrogates question Obama's judgment without bringing up MCCAIN'S judgment even ONCE, yet the complaints keep coming that the media's in the tank for Obama. :eyes:

[AndyA]

1. The folks who go along with this are hanging onto reality by a very thin thread.

To confront them with facts just makes them more certain they are correct.

Reality has little to do with their views.

[jenmito]

9. It's amazing how the Repubs. are able to TELL the media what to say and how to think about

the message THEY want to get out!

[baldguy]

2. Because invading Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism or WMDs.

It was all about imposing our (that is the *neocon*) will on the Middle East and enforcing American control of the world oil supply.

[MarjorieG]

6. Something McC has been touting since the late 90s-deserving of repeating.

[polichick]

3. What a blind fool! Someone should do a Mr. Magoo ad about him...

[jenmito]

10. But was Mr. Magoo a "war hero"?

It seems like everything is justified with that line.

[polichick]

17. D'oh!

[Cha]

4. Surprise, he's just a bush..

won't admit he's wrong. Freakshow doesn't care how many innocent people his policies have killed as long as he gets to be president.

Plus this sounds like carlyle has gotten to him 'cause OIL is the only reason they went in there.

There's more terrorists in the world because of john mccain but he's still glad he did it 'cause now he can keep sayin' "terror terror terror".

[jenmito]

11. Exactly, but amazingly, the McCain camp is trying to paint OBAMA as Bush-like!

The "flip-flop on Iraq" label apparently didn't stick, so now they're saying he, like Bush, is unwilling to make a mistake because of his opinion of the surge.

[babylonsister]

5. Sen. Kerry's on m$nbc now disputing McGaffe; we need loads more

intelligent surrogates to confront McCain's words. Like Kerry, who's doing a fine job, claiming what McCain's saying is insulting.

[SuperTrouper]

7. I saw that, Kerry is just wonderful

he should have been our President. He seems to be more combative now thatn he ever was against Shrub in 2004

[jenmito]

12. Yes, I saw him. He was good, but there aren't enough Dems. like him speaking that way.

I wish our side had a better team of people to get out the message about MCCAIN being the one with bad judgment and flip-flops.

[LiberalFighter]

8. So he is willing to kill over 4000 of our people, maim much more and spend trillions of money

just to get Saddam out and create total chaos in the Middle East.

[jenmito]

13. Yup-but nobody EVER asks him about that. n/t

[Major Hogwash]

14. McCain's new theme seems to be "War is good" he has become such a warmonger.

He's probably upset because he will never get to invade Czechoslovakia now, though.

[jenmito]

15. Yet he always manages to say he HATES war. He's SO confused...

but his dumb supporters seem to understand him perfectly.

[Egnever]

16. I think they get traction with this attack.

It is going to be very hard to explain that there were other factors that went into the relative peace in Iraq today. I personally believe that the Iraqi government smelled the change coming and knew they had to get it together after the 2006 election gains by the Dems. It was that or civil war.

Unfortunately the public doesn't do nuance well. Obama is a wonderful communicator though so perhaps he can lay it out so the public gets it we will see.

This also ends the Dems defense that the surge hasn't made the political gains it needed to. A defense I always found simplistic and stupid, but one they can no longer hide behind. Had they been explaining to the public better what was going on the last few months the public would have been primed for this change. As it stands I think they are very susceptible to Mcsames argument that he was right and Obama was wrong.