It doesn't get more pathetic to realize that Jack Cafferty is the most sensible

[grantcart]

guy on TV (besides Rachel and KO).


"The surge is over and McCain should just get over it and work on getting our people out"



"We lost 4,000 and trillions of dollars and the economy is in the toilet and all McCain can talk about is the surge - get over it already - it was an illegal war and there were no weapons of mass destruction and McCain thinks he can lead this country by talking about only one thing - the surge - its ridiculous"


Unbelievable that we have been reduced to having Jack Cafferty as the sole remaining voice of reason - beyond the two exceptions mentioned above.

[World Citizen]

1. I've been listening to Jack for years

when he was in NY. One thing I have to say about him is that he is not a whore. He really believes what he says.

[Speciesamused]

2. He should have his own show. He

is way better than Wolf Blitzer.
I just adore Jack. He is always so calm.

[Gabi Hayes]

3. he really went after that idiot Borger, who went on and ON about how

Obama won't admit he was wrong about the surge because it's "WORKING!"

it is? says who?

funny how she didn't mention that McCain was completely and utterly wrong about the war in the first place.

Cafferty just tore her up with stats about the overWHELMING concern of the public vis a vis the importance of the economy, rather than the war, and how McCain needs to "stop WHINING" about the press coverage

I'd love to see him argue with dobbs, whose show tonight is going to center around the 'media love' for Obama

[KharmaTrain]

15. That Lady Is Insufferable...

Someone refered to Mrs. Greenspan as being a gossip...that also really describes this "babe" (used as a perjorative). Nothing she says is based on any real reporting...she plays "telephone"...spreading gossip that is generally both wrong and tone deaf. She eptimoizes the beltway bubble...living in their own world of self importance and thinking the rest of us really give a shit.

Sadly, this babe cashes in with a nice corporate paycheck. As I keep saying, it's time for some new blood in the punditacracy...this crew has overstayed their welcome.

[indepat]

4. An "illegal war"? How quaint, but far too few Amurikkkans seem to give a flying fuck

about the millions of casualties, those killed, maimed, orphaned, made homeless/jobless, the utter devastation and ruin and the ransacking of ancient artifacts which raises the central question imv: just what kind of people are we anyway when a major news personality labels this war as illegal and no discernible public reaction follows? Ho-hum, let's watch Sportscenter, :shrug: :D

[grantcart]

5. There is only one way to get the masses tuned in - restore the draft

[islandmkl]

7. exactly...

i don't want to need a draft to go start some wars....

but if everybody had to face getting their ass blown up because some neoconazis want to make a couple of billions dollars...things would be a lot different on the street...

this administration's put a burden on a very small segment of our society...the rest of us worry about gas prices, food prices and trying to maintain some 'normal' life...those in the military are being USED and used up...all for the rw military-petro-global $$machine...

[DUlover2909]

18. yep - here here - people have become damned selfish

[indepat]

9. And with no deferments to the future Cheneyites: let every 'puke household with a son or daughter of

draft age serve their country along with all others. But we know that in the real world, there is no chance of that happening. :D

[woolldog]

23. I absolutely agree with you there.

No educational deferments. No deferments period. Both genders should be subject to the draft as well.

[SoonerPride]

12. Really, it should be a law that if we go to war there is a draft

And no one gets excluded.

No deferments for the rich or college bound.

All in.

If a war is what we really want then we all agree to go fight.

If the war is not what we want, then we don't fight it.

The "volunteer" army caught in this perpetual pseudo draft they have now is criminal.

[DUlover2909]

19. I agree. Send Romney's sons. They support the occupation of Iraq.

I have a good friend that was a college Navy ROTC member. He served and became a Lt. Commander in the Navy. He remained in the Navy reserves. Now he is a grunt in Iraq. Does that make any fucking sense at all? They are taking Navy officers now and making them infantry soldiers?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

22. As someone who knows numerous people, including my own boyfriend, with draft age kids:

I hate to say it but you're right. It's not until Americans are confronted with the possibility of having a personal stake in it that they'll care. The prospect of a draft would definitely get more of the young folks out to vote too.

[Faygo Kid]

6. Jack is a curmudgeon's curmudgeon. That's a good thing.

I aspire to such exalted status one day, myself.

[H2O Man]

8. It is sad that

he is one of the very, very few .... but, in a sense, it isn't surprising. I often disagree with him, but I don't view him as being in the same group as most of the cable journalists. He seems to try to be honest, and has some of the values of "old school" journalists.

[Hippo_Tron]

10. I'm pretty sure Jack Cafferty is a big Ron Paul fan

[grantcart]

14. I don't think so he is taking the Obama point of view regularly now

and he frequently smacks down the others on camera



Also he has a practical edge that I think would keep him uninterested in any third party candidate.

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. You know what? I always wondered how this moment would feel, and I've got it.

It's like when you're the designated driver and you had to sit at the Fish camp watching your friends play a game of 7-14-21 and you see them downing beers, Planters Punches, Gin and Tonics and shots of Tequila, in no particular order, and then they convince you to drive them down to some back alley for tattoos and then after that, to a friends house to do some more drinking. And the next morning you wake up with everybody's vomit all over you because you had to take them one by one to the toilet when they got sick and then they're slowly waking up from their hangovers wondering why they drank so excessively and you're wondering why you ever became friends with them? What did you ever have in common to begin with? Well, living in America today, at this moment in history is like that, only it wasn't one day they were binging, but seven years. That's a long time to be a designated driver.

[Cha]

13. Excellent point..kinda like

rudy and his 9/11 to infinity.

[me b zola]

16. I would like to remind people to watch Democracy Now! hosted

by Amy Goodman. I love and admire the work that both Olbermann & Rachel do, but for my money Goodman must, at the very least, be mentioned in the same breath.

For those of you who have never had the refreshing experience of an excellent news broadcast w/o any fingerprints of the corporate world on it, http://www.democracynow.org/.

If you have Dish TV, Democracy Now! is on FreeSpeach TV. On Comcast, well you have to fish for it. For me (yuk, we currently have nasty comcast) Democracy Now! is broadcast twice a day on a local cable outlet.


I have great regard for Jack Cafferty. Besides the fact that he reminds me of my father's side of the family, Cafferty has been a voice to help keep me sane during the past 7 years. On Fourth of July a few years ago, during a period where the rw was pushing hard homophobia and fear and hatred of Liberalism to drum up support from their base, Cafferty ran a video that he helped produce that showed pics of soldiers/marines in Iraq asking the viewer if it mattered if that soldier was gay or Liberal--would we respect their service and sacrifice any less. It was a very powerful 3 minute video. Cafferty has also, I'm sure against much pressure from the people who sign his checks, been a consistent and outspoken critic of the the crimes against our Constitution and moral decency committed by the bush* administration and their enablers.

I will never agree with Cafferty on everything, but I have deep respect & regard for him.

[DUlover2909]

21. Cenk Uygur too has the right point of view.

[democrat2thecore]

17. I respect a guy who says what he thinks - even if I disagree at times. But he's right on this! -nt

[anonymous171]

20. If the surge "worked" then we should be able to leave right away, right?

[TexasObserver]

24. SURGE = ESCALATION by another name

The point of the surge was supposed to be to allow the Iraqis time to meet their objectives in state and military matters, which both the Iraqis and the US military say have occurred. The point was to get ready to turn it over to the Iraqis.

It was George W. Bush who said When they stand up, we'll stand down.

It was George W. Bush who said If the Iraqis ask us to leave, we'll leave.

John McCain has in mind a war without end, because he will never recognize as victory our leaving and going home.