Official Vice Presidential Predictions :: Who and When?

[jefferson_dem]

My predictions:

Kaine, announced on Monday, August 4
Mittens, announced on Wednesday, August 6

What are yours?

[Klukie]

1. Biden....August 7

Ridge August 6

[Liberalboy]

2. Clark...August 6th eom

[Thrill]

3. Schweitzer on August 8th

[Barack_America]

4. Kaine, also Monday, August 4 (max coverage before the Olympics)

Romney, Friday, August 8 (because, yes, the McCain campaign is dumb enough to announce on the day of Opening Ceremonies)

[Barack_America]

9. Further prediction...

The $5 million ad buy during the Olympics will feature the Obama/Kaine ticket.

If you're going to spend that kind of money, make a splash. Great chance to introduce the VP as well.

[CTyankee]

67. Good thinking, Kristi! Wish I had thought of that.

It surely would be a great coup!

But hush up! You don't want the McCaine people to steal the idea from you!

[goodgd_yall]

28. I'm with you with Kaine

Your posts several weeks ago got me looking at him more closely. I think he'd be a good choice for Obama.

I predict he'll announce August 16.

[Barack_America]

48. Wow, thanks.

:thumbsup:

From the moment I heard him speak on Barack's behalf, I thought, "this is the guy". Finding out that they are close friends, that he was the first to endorse, etc. was just icing on the cake. Though I guess it explains why I was drawn to him; the sincerity of his defense of Barack. That's his boy. ;)

[saltpoint]

5. Sebelius or Kaine...the morning after Obama is

nominated in Denver.

[salonghorn70]

7. Strange Timing

Why do you think he will do it at that time?

[saltpoint]

8. Somehow I think the suspense factor works in Obama's favor for

his choice for veep.

He might also benefit from watching a few high-profile Republicans turn McCain down for their veep slot.

It could be as early as next week for all I know.

[slick8790]

10. I'm not sure that's possible. Doesn't vice presidential nominating come

before presidential nominating? I mean, I don't think anyone is going to object to whoever Obama picks as his VP, but it still needs to be put before the delegates. And that wouldn't be possible because Obama's nomination is the last event of the convention, correct?

[saltpoint]

15. I think the presidential candidate is nominated first, then the vice

presidential candidate.

I'll have to snoop thru the googler to get a better notion.
- - -

edit to add DemConvention page:
http://www.demconvention.com/anatomy-of-a-convention

[salonghorn70]

40. VP is Nominated Thursday

Pres is nominated Wednesday

[AtomicKitten]

6. Got an inkling (which may pass* ) that it's Bloomberg in NY with a microphone.

The week before the convention.

I thought it was going to be Biden, but Obama is confident in his international relations expertise, so I think it's all about the economy now. And being different in his VP choice.

* watch this space for my next inkling

[highplainsdem]

11. Won't guess dates. McCain will choose Romney. Obama will choose Clinton if he wants to win.

I don't think any other VP choice will help him in the GE. We already have a problem, according to the polls, with a higher percentage of Republicans saying they'll vote for McCain than Democrats saying they'll vote for Obama. There's only one VP choice that will change that.

And yes, I know, the Clinton haters here won't believe me. I don't care. I would not be surprised to see Obama drop in the polls if he picks anyone other than Clinton as his running mate.

We'll see...

[AtomicKitten]

12. "I would not be surprised to see Obama drop in the polls if he picks anyone other than Clinton .."

I know some of you pray for him to crash and burn but that support is already being withheld (and worse) and Obama is doing fine, in fact he's electorally crushing McBush.

He won't pick Clinton AND he'll kick McBush's ass. Everybody wins.

[highplainsdem]

16. No, I don't want him to crash and burn. I want him to unite the party.

And that means recognizing the VP pick favored by most Democrats, the one who got approximately as many votes in the primaries as he did. Even though a lot of his supporters during the primaries would prefer for him to act as though Hillary Clinton no longer exists.

I don't see any way the other possible VP choices are going to help him in the polls, or in the GE.

Clinton is the obvious choice, and if so many of Obama's supporters hadn't worked themselves up into a righteous hatred of HRC because she was Obama's strongest rival, they'd realize that...just as most Democrats do.

[Captain Angry]

19. The problem isn't Obama's supporters.

It's all the Republicans who dislike McCain but hate Bill (and Hillary) more.

People who would have stayed home. People who would have voted Nader, Barr, or even for Obama since he *is* so much better than McCain.

No, if he picks Hillary, we get a whole wave of new ads, a whole wave of righteous religious nuts freaking out about Bill Clinton all over again.

[Radical Activist]

56. Hillary consildates the Republican base and alienates independents.

McCain couldn't ask for a better pick. You're got it exactly right.

[AtomicKitten]

30. She isn't VP material for Barack.

She is simply not VP material for Barack. Not by a long shot. First of all let's dispense with the sense of entitlement: She lost. It's over; that's all there is. Secondly, she drove her own negatives into the ground with her kitchen sink strategy and revelations of her less than truthful resume. Polls also show independents declaring it's a no-go if she's on the ticket.

It's just not going to happen, largely due to the Clintons' behavior during the primary. Now I realize her most, um, ardent supporters are in denial about that, but suffice to say the Clintons are entirely responsible for the bad taste left in the mouth of many, many Democrats.

People are entitled to hope but they are not entitled to threaten the party regardless of how subtle (or not so subtle) that is. Those intent stapling her to the ticket ironically blew their wad by continuing to issue jihads on the internet. Life has a funny way of steamrolling the most blustery.

[NYC_SKP]

18. I'll gladly take a drop in the meaningless polls in an exchange for a win in November.

Hillary Clinton is the poison the Republicans are hoping for.

[highplainsdem]

27. HRC consistently polled better against McCain than Obama did.

She's the only VP pick who can significantly help Obama in the GE. The only one who can help him unite the party.

But your reaction is what I'd expect from the Clinton haters here.

[AtomicKitten]

31. Hillary lost. Obama won. Please move on.

[NYC_SKP]

37. The ticket with her is more risky than the benefit she might bring.

One doesn't have to be a HRC hater to understand the uneasy dynamic of them together and the kinds of attack ads that would come from the right.

[paulk]

61. she still polls better against McCain

than Obama does.

"Unity", for the Hillary hate crew that makes up a significant portion of Obama's support, is just another slogan...

Hopefully there are clearer heads in the Obama campaign than is the norm for DU.

[Beacool]

74. Yep, and as recently as July 15.

The Rasmussen poll of that day found that Hillary was ahead of McCain by 8% and Gore by 7%. Obama was ahead by only 4%.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/obama_leads_bush_by_twenty_but_clinton_does_better_against_mccain

[Beacool]

73. Shhhhh, why tell them the facts?

They rather pretend that she and her supporters don't exist, or at least that they are irrelevant. That's the Democratic party for you, always snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory!!

[AtomicKitten]

33. They made that very clear during the primary with Operation Chaos.

Yet, knowing that, Clinton has no problem continuing to count those hundreds of thousands of votes in with her already exaggerated "18 million."

I have every confidence Obama will stay upwind from that mess waiting to happen. It's the antithesis of his campaign and if we've learned anything about Obama it is that he isn't stupid.

[NYC_SKP]

35. "It's the antithesis of his campaign" Exactly.

For all the hype about how similar the two are on issues, they are as different from one another as any two candidates could be.

Talking with vs talking down to.

We vs me.

Grassroots vs old guard big money.

Honesty vs pandering

:thumbsup:

[Eurobabe]

51. Hey someone was giving out PUMA flyers in Berlin at the Obama rally

I don't know whether it was really Dems or more likely Pubes playing games. I have a copy of one.

[AtomicKitten]

52. Hey, thanks so much for your pics from Berlin.

What a wonderful experience I can only imagine!! I'm sure you were thrilled with the PUMA flyer. While they plan the coup, the rest of the world moves on.

[GalleryGod]

58. International DOUCHEBAGS for LIBERTY !

Nice pics from Ber-lin...You're a HOTTY, BTW!:woohoo:

[Eurobabe]

63. Thanks! I heard all about you too.

MHC filled me in. :D

[GalleryGod]

68. She's the best!

I love an educated woman in a short skirt!:loveya:

[Beacool]

75. The PUMAs were in Berlin????

Well, I got to hand it to them, they are pretty persistent. LOL!!!

:7

[Barack_America]

26. Just as an FYI...

Polls have shown a significant drop in support among Independents if he DOES choose Hillary.

[highplainsdem]

43. And a number of polls by different organizations have shown an Obama/Clinton ticket

does better than Obama vs. McCain.

The EPIC-MRA poll in Michigan in late May

http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080529/METRO/805290372/1374/POLITICS01


CNN in June

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/06/poll.mccain.obama/index.html


FOX News in June and again this month

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-clinton-1.html

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Majority_of_Americans_believe_Obama_will_win_election_poll/articleshow/3278186.cms


So apparently any hypothetical losses among independents, if she's on the ticket, are more than offset by gains among Democrats.

I would really like to see our party take back the White House in November, and I'm going to be very disappointed in Obama if he throws away what should be a certain Democratic victory by ignoring the one Democratic politician that polls show can add the most to the ticket.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

38. Oh I hope he dont drag up those tons of old Clinton shit again.

Out with the old ...

[Windy]

13. Hagel? Dean? I really want Clark, but as I have already seen commercials with his CIC

comments while supporting Hillary; i.e. Clinton has the experience to be CIC, McCain has the experieince to be CIC and Obama doesnt, running here in Michigan for McCain, I don't think he will be picked.

I also like Biden.

And I know people dislike Hagel's domestic policy and Dean is a longshot and lack foreign policy cred..but I'm just throwing it out there. (dean would be an attack dog though)

[Faygo Kid]

14. Geez, forget Hagel. He's a total Repuke on social/tax issues. I'm a Michigander, too.

Live in Maryland now, but I'm heading back when I retire. Dean is intriguing. I just don't know, but hope that it's not Clinton.

[Fleshdancer]

17. Clinton on Aug 6th...

and Pawlenty but I have no idea when.

[liberalmuse]

20. 8/8/08. Why not?

I think he is going to go w/Hillary. That's just wishful thinking on my part, but I think she would enhance the ticket.

McCain will announce Jeb Bush as his VP, because he thinks it will win him Florida, and he's a deluded Bushophile. That's what he was talking about in the golf cart w/poppy. He'll announce 8/9/08.

[Barack_America]

23. Olympic Opening Ceremonies.

Very short media attention.

[CK_John]

21. Tinfoil pick, someone from Bloomberg's circle, Melinda Gates, Aug 9. n/t

[saltpoint]

22. For the Pukes, the fun will be in watching to see how many of the

people McCain actually wants as his veep turn him down privately or publicly between now and August or September.

It's clear that Huck and Willard and Carly want the job real, real bad, and that alone means at least 2 of them are going to be quite disappointed if the nod goes to the third.

I discount Lieberman as an option on gut instinct. Not sure if McCain would risk Ridge.

Portman? Thune? Barbour? With Huck and Romney also on the list? Something like that. I think Thune will turn McCain down. Why hop aboard a sinking ship?

Fred Thompson is a flicker of a possibility. And god knows he has nothing else to do.

[NYC_SKP]

24. Hillary Clinton, on the twelfth of NEVER.

Hillary as VP is just what Republicans would love to see, just as they wanted her to be the candidate.

It's not going to happen, it would be an unnatural match.

and....

Eeewwww!

[PBS Poll-435]

25. Clinton - August 7th

[saltpoint]

29. McCain will choose Franklin Graham.

Billy's boy.

He's almost as high-profile as Romney, and a lot more comfy for the nutbag base.

McCain loses IMO even WITH the nutbag base, but he has no chance whatsoever unless they turn out in relatively high numbers.

Franklin Graham is the son of a popular legend. He's pretty Southern indeed and hyper-Protestant. He hasn't performed any exorcisms so far as I know and he's not a Mormon. And he can spew anti-Islamic propaganda with the best of 'em.

McCain's choices each one have a significant negative. The negative for Franklin Graham (from McCain's perspetive, I mean) is that the big coporate folks won't cotton to him none.

But just about all the fundie nutbags will turn out for the GOP if Billy's lad is thrust into greatness.

[kimbo fleiss]

46. Are you hearing that?

I haven't heard Franklin's name floated around.

McCain is going to choose someone who has been floated around, and a shocker pick would be someone who was floated but not considered top tier. Do you think he would choose someone with no government experience?

[saltpoint]

47. Hi. Welcome to DU, by the way.

I haven't heard Franklin Grahama mentioned at all. I personally consider him to be something of a psychotic, certainly a pointlessly angry guy.

I think he would be horrible as a high-influence public servant.

But McCain is facing difficult options all around. Romney appears to be the lead possibility, but he is craven in his lust for the appointment. That's a huge red flag all around.

Huckabee is a man of limited scope and a loose tongue whose wife is a space alien and whose son tortures dogs.

Carly Fiorina has a uterus, which is not a plus for many GOP supporters, plus she's a failed CEO in an era when working people are losing ground by the hour. I think she's out of the picture.

In real life, I think Thune and Portman, and possibly Haley Barbour comprise McCain's short list.

But Franklin Graham -- a man with no political creds as you say, and a worm-gnawed mind, might be a Hail Mary option for McCain. Southerner. Hyper-fundamentalist. Skilled in propaganda. Could bring out the fundie nutbag base of the party.

[nsd]

Biden. August 4.

If that's wrong, my second guess is: Bayh, August 4.

[Barack_America]

32. McCain: George Washington.

Because they were classmates, he builds upon McCain's "military experience" theme and Washington's role in forming our nation + his status as our first President will really sway voters.

[Muttocracy]

34. MSNBC.com quoting Wash Post about McCain - they say Monday to Aug 8

but maybe they're just trying to drum up attention.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25841923/

[Cosmocat]

60. Like so many other things right now ...

ESPECIALLY since it was brought out by the corvette driving grim reaper that the VP pick would be during BO's trip, and like McCain beating every other stick he can get ahold of to death ... They are going to keep playing the leaking the date of his VP pick thing as an attention getter until the convention, or milk it too long, which every comes first ...

[propel]

36. Evan Bayh

...and we absolutely destroy McCain.

[Windy]

39. You're absolutely NUTS... he is the worst possible choice. No substance! n/t

[Cosmocat]

59. Yes ...

A DEMOCRAT who went from Secretary of State, to a two term governer to a third term senator in a SOLID RED Indiana, has no substance ...

Bayh would make people HERE put their fingers in this throats WHILE THEY VOTE FOR BO ...
Bayh would bring A LOT more SWING VOTERS than a candidate who would be loved on this board ...

Bayh would be a great pick ...

Sorry, but he would ...

[CreekDog]

65. and no charisma

what a combination!

i think his dad has more of both right now than Evan.

[saltpoint]

41. I still like Bill Richardson's chances for the veep job,

and I also like taking New Mexico back and winning Colorado, for example.

We convene in Denver. It would be a fine thing to see a west-of-the-Mississippi candidate walk onto the convention stage as our vice presidential nominee.

And it would say to the Pukes: We contest this turf. It's not yours any longer.

[melody]

42. Professor Plum in the library with a croquet mallet

I have no idea ... just being a smart ass.

[Darth_Ole]

44. Here goes:

Obama picks Schweitzer on Monday, Aug. 4.
McCain picks Romney sometime thereafter.

[jefferson_dem]

45. Picks could come "anytime" so the chattering class are telling us.

...

Uh huh.

[Liberalynn]

49. Don't know who but I say it won't happen until convention

I really want to say my choice would be Barbara Boxer but don't want to loose her voice in the Senate.

In fact I hope it won't be any of our Senators, including Hillary. We need them all right where they are, to keep control of the Senate and add more.

Picking a woman outside the ranks of the current Congress would be good, IMHO, though if he doesn't its not a deal breaker for me. I will still vote for Senator Obama. I will support his choice for VP too, unless he crosses party lines, which some have suggested he do. We just can't afford another Repulican, in any position, even VP.

That being said, I doubt Senator Obama would cross party lines for the VP choice anyway.

[Eurobabe]

50. Biden, July 30th, Happy Birthday to me!

Or Biden August 4th, HB to Barack!

Who cares when Grumpy announces?

[davidpdx]

53. Obama picks Schweitzer on August 4th

Remember the 6th (actually the 5th in the US) would not be a good day either as that is the anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima. I'm sure the media will be covering it since it historically significant event.

Edit: Changed my mind.

[Lil Missy]

54. Doesn't matter who McAsshole picks. He's toast. I have on good authority that Obama will choose ...

my cats asshole for his VP. And he will win.

Seriously, there is no contest here. Don't let any of the smoke or fire blow up your ass. McAsshole could pick God as a VP, and still lose. For christ sakes, he's only running for a 4 year term, and most Republicans don't even like him.

Stay steady, and forget the smoke and mirrors. My cats asshole will put Obama over the top. I promise. ;-)

[Radical Activist]

55. Zero chance of picking Romney. Haley Barbour and Tom Vilsack.

They've already pissed off the religious right enough. They won't alienate the base by picking Romney.

I'll make a wild guess with Obama/Vilsack on August 18. Vilsack will help unite the party since he was Hillary's co-chair and consolidate Obama's appeal in the Midwest, helping to win Iowa and Missouri.

McCain picks Haley Barbour to consolidate support among conservatives, the party establishment and the religious right. Aug. 5.

[salonghorn70]

62. Vilsack

Radical, I am really surprised that Vilsack hasn't received more attention. He was a popular midwest Governor with a very good organization in Iowa. He would have appeal in some of the other midwestern states that are close.He would also appeal to Clinton voters. He would not bring any foreign policy experience, however. As best as I can tell, he is not even being considered.

[Radical Activist]

72. I think the lack of

foreign policy or military experience make him an unlikely choice, but otherwise he'd be an excellent pick. It would be the Midwestern version of Clinton/Gore that picked up several Southern states.

Vilsack has gone on a few TV shows stumping for Obama. It wouldn't surprise me if Obama's choice is a complete surprise to the media so I wouldn't put too much stock on whether we hear about him being a potential choice.

[Eurobabe]

64. Now I am hearing Eric Cantor, can't think of a bigger DOUCHEBAG

:puke:

[GalleryGod]

57. I Love the Romney pick! They can kiss-off the Evangelical Vote!

:rofl: :spray: :spray: :rofl:

[CreekDog]

66. Richardson or Biden

with a slight edge to Richardson because New Mexico is ostensibly a swing state.

but nobody could fill the VP attack dog shoes like Biden, and Biden can do it with a smile on his face.

[mvd]

69. Biden, on August 4

That's the beginning of a new work week. It's not my ideal choice, but it would do IMO if they were careful.

[mvd]

70. Forgot McSame's pick

I think Pawlenty, and he'll announce right before the Dem convention, knowing him.

[mbee]

71. Obama's choice will be a complete surprise

and I can't imagine who it will be? Possibly Jim Webb and maybe even a Republican who knows. I was very surprised to hear him say recently that he respected Jim "Election Fixer" Baker and would seek out his advise during his Presidency. I was a more than a little upset to hear that as Baker is a creep in my view.