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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:20 AM Original message |
DNCer's respond to PUMAs |
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beachmom
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm beginning to question how many of these people are really Democrats. |
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Arkansas Granny
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I'm beginning to question how many of these people are really Hillary supporters. |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
55. I think that is the case with some of them, but not all. Like that |
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sybylla
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
80. Actually, that state couldn't be sure she was a Dem |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Thanks for the information. Every time I hear a woman blame |
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sybylla
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. I agree wholeheartedly on the emotional BS |
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eridani
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
161. Wonder why none of these "glass ceiling" feminists say that they'll vote for McKinney? |
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mopinko
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #161 |
176. really good point. nt |
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Raineyb
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Wed Jul-30-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #161 |
177. Nope |
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eridani
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Wed Jul-30-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #177 |
189. Oopsie. Sort of slipped my mind that she's black in addition to being female |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I take what they say seriously.... |
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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. They've had two months |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. once the convention is over, reality will really hit |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. A few say vote mccain out of anger and an "I'll show you attitude but most just want respect |
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geek tragedy
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Hillary supporters are respected. |
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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. The RFD in my county and the Political Director |
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madfloridian
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Respect??? See the video of how they shouted Dean down... |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. I'll have to look at it later.... |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
57. Hillary supporters have my respect, as long as they have |
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eridani
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
162. I'd respect them if they said that they would vote for Cynthia McKinney |
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Lilith Velkor
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #162 |
173. Yup. n/t |
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Raineyb
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Wed Jul-30-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #162 |
178. So would I n/t |
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iconicgnom
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
179. you say: they say they'll vote McCain but just want respect from Dems? |
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JTFrog
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. WTF? |
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burythehatchet
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. grrrrrrrr |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Glad you deleted it. |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
62. Thank You for your peaceful |
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Kittycat
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
33. True democrats would get behind the party nominee and stop this bullshit. |
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Alter Ego
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
50. This ceased to be a legitimate point a long time ago |
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Chulanowa
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
58. There's a difference between being irritated, and attempting political blackmail |
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beachmom
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
65. Um, hello, on MadFlo's thread, one admitted they voted for Bush in '00 and '04. |
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mrreowwr_kittty
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
95. As a woman and a hardcore feminist |
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Rose Siding
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
147. Huh? Standing up against attacks on Obama is like saying they're on the rag? |
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AZBlue
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Wed Jul-30-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
184. I don't believe they are Hillary Clinton supporters and/or Democrats. |
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ericgtr
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. How can you question this when they obviously aren't dems? |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Please stop the insults..... |
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geek tragedy
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Why are you defending McCain-supporting members |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. I'm respecting Democrats who are voicing their |
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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Hurt by Obama Supporters? |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. You know what she is talking about. nt. |
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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:07 AM Original message |
Like the Hillary supporters |
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Kittycat
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Fellow democrats don't try to sabatoge the party. |
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ericgtr
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. I'm sorry but that is just bullshit. Here let me help you out |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
59. I don't respect anyone who would vote for McCain for ANY reason. |
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madwivoter
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. How exactly do they measure respect? |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
77. Excellent post. And I agree. Just how do we show |
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madwivoter
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Thanks JenniferZ |
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Arugula Latte
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
153. Oh please ... I've never seen anybody else's supporters acting like a bunch of whiny crybabies |
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creeksneakers2
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
157. Respect? |
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eridani
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
165. Cynthia McKinney is a real protest vote. John McCain is not |
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Hugabear
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
167. "I do not see most of them as hateful to Obama at all" |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
175. Wake up and smell the roses. They are not Democrats, and you |
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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. They are idiots |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Do you want votes to go to McCain? You are definitely encouraging them o do just that |
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geek tragedy
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. They hate Barack Obama. Full stop. |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Liking Obama is not a requirement. |
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geek tragedy
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. They don't have to like Obama. |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. The point is that talking does more good then trying to force it. |
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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Evidently |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Rather, those members of the DNC disagree |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
66. I have thrown all my hope into the |
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Alter Ego
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
52. I'm not going to kowtow to a bunch of temperamental jerks |
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whatchamacallit
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #37 |
53. If the remarks of someone on the internet can sway their vote, then they have shit for brains. |
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Mojorabbit
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #37 |
56. They are going to vote |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
60. Validate their feelings???? OMG. This is not junior high here. |
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polmaven
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
146. May I ask you |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. Absolutely the same way. NO republicans on the ticket. Not now. |
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newmajority
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
72. Validate their feelings? |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Hello- Rise HIllary Rise was a poem by Maya Angelou |
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newmajority
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Maya Angelou probably had the best of intentions when she wrote it |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. That's the difference between you and I |
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newmajority
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. So why do you post at CapitalHillbot forums then? |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I registered there when it first opened during the primary |
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newmajority
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. I can't read any of your posts over there |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Because not everyone there agrees on everything, just like here |
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sniffa
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #103 |
117. There's a way to read the hidden forums |
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newmajority
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #117 |
131. Sure there is. |
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sniffa
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Eh, I'm talking an easier way |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Apparently I am banned from CH now anyway. |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
113. Marrah, I think you're pretty brave, myself. I've always respected |
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KAZ
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. Agree. All except the living in Denver part. :) |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #113 |
122. Nah I can totally understand why they did |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Well, if you do... |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. OOOO now I am hungry ! |
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DevonRex
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #126 |
134. Heh heh. Sorry about that... |
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SidneyCarton
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Tue Jul-29-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #94 |
108. This is not an inquisition and you are not Torquemada. |
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sniffa
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. If I were you, I would have gone even more over the top |
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SidneyCarton
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. A little melodramatic, I agree. |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Uh huh |
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newmajority
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #124 |
143. Different points of view are fine |
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pecwae
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #124 |
168. It's over the top. |
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pecwae
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #94 |
169. Man, you are totally obsessed! |
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Hugabear
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
166. Bullshit. These are now self-proclaimed McCain supporters |
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LowerManhattanite
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
85. It's called a “ruse”...or a “snipe hunt”—where people who mean us no good will... |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. Why are you so concerned about a few dozen disgruntled voters? |
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Lilith Velkor
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #92 |
174. Their faith in Obama is weak |
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AZBlue
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Wed Jul-30-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #92 |
187. It's not just a few dozen. |
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sniffa
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
116. BAM! There it is |
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sniffa
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
114. Zzzzzzzz |
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. how would you know what "they" are? |
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ericgtr
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Ignorance? Believe me, this is not an issue of not understanding who these people are |
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Beacool
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Tue Jul-29-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
107. Hear, hear!!! |
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Hugabear
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
164. They can fucking GO TO HELL |
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AZBlue
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Wed Jul-30-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
185. Got any proof of that? |
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ihavenobias
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
138. Oh, you won't get them to admit it though. They will INSIST they ARE Democrats... |
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Coexist
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. . |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. . |
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AspenRose
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
5. They aren't Democrats. |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Are they human or alien? |
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ericgtr
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. They are reformed and will vote for McCain who is a republican |
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SurfingAtWork
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Ok, right. So they're Democrats and have always voted |
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ericgtr
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Not supporting Obama (D) and they ARE supporting McCain (R) |
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SurfingAtWork
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I don't disagree with you. I was responding to post #8, not yours. |
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ericgtr
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Doh! |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
73. Where do you see race as an issue? |
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Raineyb
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
96. I see race as an issue when people who claim to be "life long" Democrats |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #96 |
115. I disagee............. |
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Raineyb
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #115 |
132. Diminishes actual racism? We are talking about actual racism |
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Beacool
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #132 |
140. I think that your oversimplifying the issue. |
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Raineyb
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #140 |
152. Did you complain about the "thinness" of Edwards' resume when he ran in 2004? |
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Beacool
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. I was not an Edwards supporter in 2004. |
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elkston
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Wed Jul-30-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #140 |
183. No, there is resentment and some of it is due to Obama's race. |
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SurfingAtWork
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
100. I was going to respond to you, but it looks like someone beat |
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
67. You are right. They must be aliens. Any human Democrat would support our nominee. |
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sniffa
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
119. I can't believe you're still bogarting that crucifix |
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madfloridian
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Yes, they are. Not all, but many. |
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NYC_SKP
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
11. "Take me off your whiner list." |
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ErinBerin84
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
16. heh. I told myself that I wasn't going to respond to the PUMA threads, but I can't resist. |
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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I don't normally make them |
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JVS
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
22. Go Carolyn! Tell God to smite them good! |
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mrreowwr_kittty
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
97. I know Carolyn. She rawwks!! nt |
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SwampG8r
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
31. its just a shame |
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SidneyCarton
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
34. I salute Steven Ybarra for his clear depiction of our collective nightmare: |
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pansypoo53219
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
43. i'm just gonna |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. bah forget it |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
69. That is inappropriate. |
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pecwae
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #43 |
170. You do know that Michelle Obama |
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Donald Ian Rankin
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
48. Does anyone have an accurate measure of how many there are? |
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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. They are amusing |
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newmajority
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. The so called "PUMAs" themselves probably number in double digits |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
71. That is an excellent point. |
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Donald Ian Rankin
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. If there are only a few, it's probably not worth it |
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newmajority
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
63. There are many ways to skin a PUMA |
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VeraAgnes
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. This may be viewed as |
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AllentownJake
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. I bought former Hillary Supporters |
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mloutre
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #70 |
102. Is that you, Ms. Chamberlain? |
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
74. I REALLY don't think PUMA members are Democrats period. |
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LowerManhattanite
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
78. F*ck the PUMAs and their whiney-assed enablers/coddlers here on DU... |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Really - links please. If you are going to call people out, then have some courage and do it. |
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LowerManhattanite
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. To use your own carefully-written words upthread, oh-so-sensitive-one... |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Then put me on ignore, because I will continue to call you on your bullying |
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Hugabear
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Wed Jul-30-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
182. You know damned well that it's against DU rules to call people out |
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Indenturedebtor
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Tue Jul-29-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
83. HAHAHA best one is from Ybarra |
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Cha
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
89. Lol... |
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blogslut
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
90. Some people are addicted to drama and the prosepect of mass attention |
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Lilith Velkor
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
106. DU sure loves feeding their drama and giving them attention |
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blogslut
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #106 |
121. You're not fooling anyone |
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sniffa
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #121 |
128. Ooh, touche' |
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Faygo Kid
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #121 |
141. "By registering at Capital Hill you are acknowledging that you are . . . not an Obama supporter." |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. It would depend on when the person joined |
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Faygo Kid
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Looks like a post there on July 23. Double oops. |
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Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #145 |
150. I know we have no quarrel |
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Lilith Velkor
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #141 |
172. I was invited to bitch about Obama on somebody else's bandwidth |
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Lilith Velkor
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Wed Jul-30-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #121 |
180. Oh, so you like to feed drama and pay attention to websites you don't like? |
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iconicgnom
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Wed Jul-30-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. So, do you need to have your feelings validated, puma? |
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Lilith Velkor
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Wed Jul-30-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #181 |
188. Not really |
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iconicgnom
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Wed Jul-30-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. I didn't think so. |
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BlooInBloo
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
93. BlooInBloo's response to PUMA.... |
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polichick
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Tue Jul-29-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
105. How many of these unhappy creatures are there - any estimates?? |
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Beacool
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Tue Jul-29-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
109. Read this article that appeared in the New York Daily News |
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Danger Mouse
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Tue Jul-29-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. And your position is what? |
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mloutre
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #109 |
129. Um, hello? Did it ever occur to you that some of those points might be well-deserved? |
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Beacool
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #129 |
136. OK, so......... |
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mloutre
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. What if some people *do* think her voice sounded shrill and her laugh sounded like a cackle? |
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Beacool
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. Only hens and witches cackle. |
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Beacool
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Tue Jul-29-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
110. And this one from the San Francisco Chronicle |
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mloutre
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #110 |
125. Boink. That. Noise. |
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sniffa
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #125 |
151. Was it a really long essay? |
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Faygo Kid
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #110 |
148. Rush quoted this at length today, too. He liked it, as well. But not her. |
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Beacool
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #148 |
158. Ahhh, Rush........ |
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Faygo Kid
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Tue Jul-29-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Sorry to bring it up. I meant no offense by quoting from it. |
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Beacool
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Tue Jul-29-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. That's OK, no offense!!! |
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scheming daemons
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #110 |
163. Wait.... I thought it was people like ME that haven't "gotten over" the primaries????? |
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Danger Mouse
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Tue Jul-29-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
112. What a bunch of fools and tools. |
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elana i am
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
130. yeah well... |
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George_Bonanza
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Tue Jul-29-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
135. What PUMAs are |
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sourmilk
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Tue Jul-29-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
139. “God will guide the hand of Judgement that will strike you down?" |
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Lone Southern Dem
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
155. kick |
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DangerousRhythm
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Tue Jul-29-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
156. Haha, great responses! |
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Wed Jul-30-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
171. I liked this quote: |
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Wed Jul-30-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
186. Link not working..... |
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