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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:54 PM Original message |
Why would Kucinich make a bad Veep? |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because he is much, much more valuable in the House |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Well, that was diplomatic |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. He's also be the easiest for the right wing and MSM to marginalize. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. No matter who is picked |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. No matter how much you want it to not be true, it is.... |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Why are you worried about what the right is going to do? |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. It's not just the right. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:33 PM Original message |
What about increasing your voter pool from the 100 mill non voters? |
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Terranist (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. I'd bet even if Joe Lieberman was Dem. candidate |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. He's not electable |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Not that again |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Yeah. He won a single term as mayor of a solidly Democratic city. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. He hasnt had much luck at winning elections outside of Cleveland after his disasterous term as mayor |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. His term as mayor is looked at as heroic |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
76. He was so unpopular that Cleveland voters elected the only GOP mayor in a half century |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Do you know why? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. Even Gerald Ford was popular after staying out of the public eye for a few years |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. No, that STILL |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
60. Talk about a false analogy |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. delete |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. What about his performance in the primary would lead you to believe he'd be a good candidate? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. he has terrible public image. |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. Aside from Obama never choosing him, he might make a good VP. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. DK would be a great VP. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. I don't think that's gonna happen |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. Because he is incompetent. He botched the single form necessary to withdraw from MI's primary. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. You just gave a lot of reasons why he's a great pick |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Congress has an abysmal approval rating because it doesn't accomplish shit. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. It's also abysmal because of the things it "accomplishes" |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. Because he isn't Joe Biden. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. He would lose votes for Obama because most of the country wouldn't vote for him |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. People almost NEVER vote against a ticket because of the VP. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. People are almost never given a reason to vote against the ticket because of VP. |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. So basically, he'd bring in 2% of the voters who are going |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. What makes you think Obama has the support of the lefties |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. I'd like President Obama to create a Dept of Peace with Kucinich at the helm. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. We already have one. It's called the Dept. of State. nt |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. They changed that to the Dept. of War during the current administration. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. We'll do that by changing the leadership of the Dept. of State. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Obama will not be boxed in by a pre-2008 template. Change is scary, huh? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
24. He took the military option off the table |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. As opposed to, say, every person who takes the draft off the table?? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I'm sorry, but anybody running for the role of CIC |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. And anybody with a half-ounce of common sense knows that |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. That is not what Kucinich said |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Let me see a transcript. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Firts off |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Watch it |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I don't know why you're the crazy one? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. Ipse dixit |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I'm very sorry you cannot appreciate realities of national politics |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. So, someone who disagrees with your assertions is mentally deficient?? Niiice. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Take whatever you like from it |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I don't look at the insults as much as I look at where they are coming from |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I am looking at this from a national politics perspective |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Taking the military option off the table WILL NEVER SELL |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Actually it would |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Cite a source for these allegations |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Go look at the polls before those wars became a reality |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. You made the assertion |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Ill give you a snippet |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. And you offer nothign of relevance to the debate |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I suppose anyone that offers the proof that you ask for |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. What proof? |
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Terranist (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
27. He'd make an excellent leader in just about any position |
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Lucky 13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
32. All we would hear about is how he believes in UFOs. |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
34. Too short and looks like an elf. n/t |
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monomach (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. One UFO ad + One ad about how bad his term as mayor went...He'd be DONE. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
37. Because we want to WIN? |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNNNER!!! N/T |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. So does everyone else |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
42. First, he has never won his own state in a statewide campaign |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. He'd make a great VP and an even better POTUS but Americans are too dumb to see that |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
44. Rightly or wrongly, he's perceived by some as fringe. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
46. What exactly does the failed mayor and unaccomplished congressman bring to the table? |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. He brings failed resolutions to the table that the majority of Americans |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. Well, I have fundamental disagreements with what the poster.. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. He would be a GREAT VP, but the country would.. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
61. We've scrapped about Biden before... |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I'm not saying that I'm absolutely right |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I agree that they'd call every VP a liberal |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. I would like to know why people think that because the right attacks a candidate |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. DK is seen as a utter leftist |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
77. Because even Kucinich's own party denigrates him |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. You're talking posters on this board? |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
82. Because he offers nothing |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. You might want to look at issue groups |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
85. because he offers sane & rational long term solutions to problems instead of sound bite quick fixes |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
87. I love Dennis Kucinich but Dennis Kucinich would spook the herd. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. If he runs, I'd rather it be for President |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Hey there, mvd. And a warm howdy right back. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Yep, they try to get him out in his district, but he remains |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
90. He's a diehard Reagan fanatic and only discovered a woman's right to choose when he ran for Prez |
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