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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:56 PM
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So...do you REALLY think we're "fighting terrorists"??? Hmmmm....
Silence on Texas terrorists

IN APRIL 2003, John Ashcroft's Justice Department disrupted what appears to have been a horrifying terrorist plot. In the small town of Noonday, Tex., FBI agents discovered a weapons cache containing fully automatic machine guns, remote-controlled explosive devices disguised as briefcases, 60 pipe bombs and a chemical weapon -- a cyanide bomb -- big enough to kill everyone in a 30,000-square-foot building.

Strangely, though, the attorney general didn't call a press conference to announce the discovery of the weapons cache, or the arrest of William Krar, its owner. He didn't even issue a press release.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/06/23/EDG5179OMT1.DTL

But these home-grown terrorists will soon get another chance;

Man with huge weapons cache sentenced to 11 years

A man who stockpiled machine guns, bombs and enough cyanide to kill everyone inside a building the size of a small-town civic center was sentenced Tuesday to more than 11 years in prison.

William Krar, 63, pleaded guilty in November to possessing a dangerous chemical weapon and could have gotten life in prison.

His common-law wife, Judith Bruey, 55, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal weapons and was sentenced to nearly five years.

Agents found nearly a half-million rounds of ammunition, more than 60 pipe bombs, machine guns, silencers and remote-controlled bombs disguised as briefcases. Pamphlets on how to make chemical weapons and racist literature were also discovered.

Agents also found nearly two pounds of almost pure sodium cyanide -- enough to kill everyone in a space as big as a high school basketball arena, authorities said.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/04/cyanide.sentencing.ap/

Imagine if his name had been bin Krar.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 12:00 AM
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1. And the NBC hubby says...
If he'd dropped those 2 lbs of cynide into the water supply...big owwie.
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zmdem Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 12:14 AM
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2. Missplaced anger
It was the judge and/or jury that made the sentence, not Ashcroft. Ashcroft works in the executive branch of government. The judicial branch is responsible for verdicts and sentences.

I do applaud your strong law and order stance however.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 12:59 AM
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3. If Ass wanted life, the guy woulda got life...
But read the first link. Asscroft is one seriously sick psycho.
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zmdem Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 01:15 AM
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4. I agree, the guy got off easy, but
that's a judicial decision, not an executive one.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:43 AM
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6. I don't mean the sentancing
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:36 AM
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5. Hey you know there's no such thing
as a white terrorist.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:45 AM
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7. Funny you should mention that
I was reading a silly BB earlier and they were discussing the diff between "terrorist" and "freedom fighter".

One incredibly stupid idiot (she bugs hell out of me) said FF = good, T = just kills because they love to kill.

Oy.

Did I mention she's really stupid?

Anyhoo they were saying they don't see the OK bombing as terrorists! I mean EXSQUEEZE ME?????

Were they just in a grumpy mood??? bloody 'ell.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:05 AM
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9. Try to define a weed.
The best defination would be "a plant in the wrong spot". I guess it depends on who thinks they own the garden.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:03 AM
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8. The probability of death or injury is greater at the hands
of home grown terrorists than any threat from overseas. The problem is, most of these nutcases are more closely aligned with the powers that are.

The right-wing extremists, from the KKK, Neo-Nazi's, Aryans, various Militia / survivalist groups, and outfits like the "Army of God" generally have strong religious connections, and are extremely dangerous.

Americans are far more threatened by these groups due to their numbers, and their proximity.

Check out http://www.tolerance.org and click on "track hate groups" to see how big the grass roots level right-wing movement really is.
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