Clark to Rove: "I dare you"

[Jack_Dawson]

General Clark is the ONLY candidate taking the attack to the FREEPERS! Everyone else is playing defense. Gotta admire beating the pukes at their own game.

"And if that makes me an 'old-style' Democrat, then I accept that label with pride and I dare you to come after me for it."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/05/elec04.prez.clark.taxes/index.html

[Democrats unite]

1. I'll come after you!...

Only so I can join you!

[JVS]

2. He's not the only one taking it to the freepers, but he's better than most

[wyldwolf]

3. Let's get ready to Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumble!

"If Karl Rove is watching today, Karl, I want you to hear me loud and clear: I am going to provide tax cuts to ease the burdens for 31 million American families -- and lift hundreds of thousands of children out of poverty -- by raising the taxes on 0.1 percent of families -- those who make more than $1,000,000 a year. You don't have to read my lips, I'm saying it," Clark said.

"And if that makes me an 'old-style' Democrat, then I accept that label with pride and I dare you to come after me for it."

[adadem]

11. Love it!

Great job, General.

[windansea]

29. fire one

[GOPBasher]

4. I love this guy.

I think Rove and the boys will crap their pants if he wins.

[Jack_Dawson]

5. LOL!!! Ya think?

4-Star vs. Flight Suit has always been their worst nightmare. Look for Barry McCaffrey as VP if that happens.

[arcane1]

17. hey, Bush is NOT just a flight-suit, dammit!

He was a high-school CHEERLEADER, too!

:silly:

[Crunchy Frog]

22. I plan on

buying stock in Depends undergarments if Clark wins the nomination.:evilgrin:

[Scott Lee]

6. LOL. Dean had given Bush a bloody nose before you even started

So let's not act like Wesley Clark opened the woop ass. He found an old can of it Dean had used and discarded, and scraped the bottom to limply fling at Rove.

Big deal.

[Jack_Dawson]

7. Criticism from a 4-Star vs. a Draft Dodger carries a leeeetle more weight

[Scott Lee]

32. POOP.

[Clark Can WIN]

43. POOP to yourself please......... nobody made you post

your un-poop here. Don't like it, stay out of the kitchen.

[mike from ri]

59. exactly my point jack

[SahaleArm]

8. Does that include backtracking on the 9-11 charge? n/t

[Monte Carlo]

10. Has he _really_ felt anything?

Or is it maybe just wisful thinking?

[maxr4clark]

12. Dean was early to be against Bush, yes

but Clark's statements against Bush have more teeth, because Clark has more credibility to criticize military action than Dean does. The media can brush off Dean's comments against Bush, but not Clark's.

It is a big deal. It will become a bigger and bigger deal as the general election draws closer. And only Clark of the Democrats has the credibility to make the accusations stick, and to guide us out of Mess O'Potamia.

[Democrats unite]

13. Dean didn't open it either!...

He just picked up where all other Democrats left off! Dean was not the first!

[neuvocat]

23. Clark is going after Karl Rove, not Bush.

There's an article that you just happened to miss about it.

[Scott Lee]

31. Gee golly, I thought Bushhole was resident, not Rove?

I'm glad you told me....hell, we've been going after the wrong guy all this time!

[Clark4Prez]

49. 'Come on, he's Bush's Brain, you KNOW that, we all do n/t

[bread_and_roses]

40. Dean's tax plan won't give Bush any trouble

because it is fatally flawed by its' equal treatment of tax breaks for low and middle income workers as well as the wealthy. It is not only un-Progressive, it shows a disregard for the economic trends since (at least) the Reagan years. Worst of all, it implies there is some parity of burden/benefit bourne by ordinary working people and the rich.

I doubt Clark's plan is perfect, but at least has progressive elements and offers something to a household with two $25,000 yr or less jobs.

I am not, btw, a Clark supporter, nor for that matter in any camp.

[Clark4Prez]

48. Geeze, He can't even attack Bush right, huh

After the General has stayed above the fray and refused to attack Dean, stayed focused on Bush and Co, you still won't cut him any slack.

POOP!!!!!!

[mike from ri]

58. geo bush likes getting "hit" by dean

what better for W than to have attacks drected at him fron an angry-seeming leftward-moving secular culturally-liberal n'easterner.

he fears being attacked by a 4star general and decorated vet from ark.

[Monte Carlo]

9. They'll still try to insinuate it...

... just like that guy on Faux News tried to a little while back. Clark is crazy, don't ya know...

[Jack_Dawson]

14. And we saw how well FAUX Anchor did...

Clark will reach back and backhand the whole lot of them. He loves to fight.

[Monte Carlo]

25. I hope he loves to fight. There's a whole line of asses to follow...

... who hope to, inch by inch, turn Clark into an egotistical maniac in the public eye. Their military loyalties are not as strong as their Democratic hatreds.

[Cloud]

15. Go Clark!

But I don't think Rove fears him. Why would he?

They will attack Clark on Kosovo. They will ask why we were there and Milosovic was no threat to America while Saddam is the big, bad bogeyman.

They will attack his tax plan to raise taxes on those making over 1 million as class warfare.

I can see it now. You can bet Rove has tricks up his sleeve for all of the canidates.

[NV1962]

19. That'd be nice - let's see that!

Kosovo: yup - he was SACEUR, winning the campaign with ZERO US troops KIA (and what's the score in Iraq, today?) - but the best part is the next one. Clark's orders came from the C-in-C better known as Bill Clinton (rinse and repeat that name a few times, until the opponent lies foaming and gasping on the floor)

Taxes: bring it on - together with the stats that demonstrate in blistering clarity who feeds the rich, and who's real putting Families First, caring for the Middle Class. Yum!

Karl Rove is quite welcome. More than that - he's pre-emptively BAITED! :evilgrin:

[tnlefty]

42. Nice summary. I would've loved to see Rove's piggy face turn red when

he first heard or heard of this. Wonder if his glasses steamed up?

Nicely done Gen. Clark.

[David Zephyr]

16. Clark and Dean. The Two Democrats That Will Fight GW Bush.

Excellent.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

18. I LOVE this part! Clark says Tax The Rich!

Clark issued a challenge to Republicans who might want to accuse him of class warfare.

"If Karl Rove is watching today, Karl, I want you to hear me loud and clear: I am going to provide tax cuts to ease the burdens for 31 million American families -- and lift hundreds of thousands of children out of poverty -- by raising the taxes on 0.1 percent of families -- those who make more than $1,000,000 a year. You don't have to read my lips, I'm saying it," Clark said.

"And if that makes me an 'old-style' Democrat, then I accept that label with pride and I dare you to come after me for it."


TAKE THAT!!!

[hippiechick]

20. Notice, though he didn't use the "L" word ....

..."if that makes me an 'old-style' Democrat, then I accept that label with pride ..."

The policy stance he was referring to would more rightly get him labelled a liberal by the Wingnuts ... so why didn't he just own up to being a LIBERAL Democrat ??

Still too traumatizing of a self-definition, General ? :wtf:


:hippie:

[madrchsod]

21. i`ll take an

"old style" democrat any dam day..i guess that`s cause i`m 57 and remember when demo`s weren`t labeled "liberals" used to be commies,leftists,unionists,peaceniks,etc,etc

[roguevalley]

26. he's declared out loud and on the record that he's a liberal more than

once. Not a problem. Been there, done that.

[Jerseycoa]

30. Unbelievable

He's said it a dozen times at least.

[bain_sidhe]

35. I think he's aiming for those

who bemoan the loss of the "old-style" Democrats. Well, that's my take on it, just like Republican moderates today bemoan the loss of "old-style" Republicans.

[Boo Boo]

47. Guess you missed it,...

Clark already *proudly* accepted the Liberal label. Bill Maher, noting that Dean ran away from the word, asked Clark if he was a Liberal. Clark said he was, and further, that America was a Liberal Democracy.

I guess when you swear an oath to defend a set of principles with your life, and pay the price in blood, you're a little more likely to stand your ground rather than try to change the subject.

[Turkw]

52. He has said it before, liberal, but who care's, is there a check list?

Jeeze you guys pick some silly stuff to pit pick about.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. WOW!

"If Karl Rove is watching today, Karl, I want you to hear me loud and clear: I am going to provide tax cuts to ease the burdens for 31 million American families -- and lift hundreds of thousands of children out of poverty -- by raising the taxes on 0.1 percent of families -- those who make more than $1,000,000 a year. You don't have to read my lips, I'm saying it," Clark said.

BRING 'EM ON!!!!! Holy Moly! Nothing like an "in your face" challenge! See? THIS is EXACTLY why this man should be our nominee! HE can do this and HANDLE it when they take him up on the challenge! Go, Clark! :bounce:

[Northwind]

27. Wonderful

Just what we need in the White House, another schoolyard bully.

No Thanks.

NBD '04

[Jack_Dawson]

28. It takes a Bully to take down a Bully

You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.

[Scott Lee]

33. I'm surprised Clark didn't get his pals in the KLA to do him a favor!

That's how real "bullies" work.

[PatrioticOhioLiberal]

51. Hehe...Scott has never seen

a Clark thread he didn't love.

It's a fetish thing I think.

[retyred]

55. You always hurt the one you love

No matter what they say, it just makes Clark supporters stronger and better.



retyred in fla
“Good-Night Paul, Wherever You Are”
So I read this book

[Turkw]

53. What are you, Milosevic's pen pal, crying that he is in jail for rape and

murder? The KLA was a bunch of thugs also, guess what they have all been stopped-thanks to Clark. But I guess that's not good enough, Clark should have stopped them all with hugs, gentle affirmations, and chanting you have the power.

[Jack_Dawson]

62. LOL

[bain_sidhe]

34. No, not a bully, just somebody stronger

Clark doesn't have to be a bully, he just has to stand up to one... and beat the shit out of him.

Oh. Excuse me, I misspoke. I meant to say, "beat the living shit out of him."

:evilgrin:

[Clark4VotingRights]

57. I love that!

What General Clark meant to say was "I'll beat the living shit out of them."

Good clarification from the Clark team.

[LeinesRed]

37. How was that "bully talk?"

Just wondering... :kick:

[jumptheshadow]

38. He's not a bully

He's the honorable guy who stands up to the bully -- and wins.

[Bake]

39. Not another bully -- a CHAMPION!

When all the kids in the schoolyard with bloody noses find somebody to take down their tormenter, ask THEM if their guy is a bully.

Another bully MY ASS! Clark is a CHAMPION. A defender of the little folks. A REAL Commander in Chief! Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

Bake

[Clark Can WIN]

45. Standing up to Rove is what we need......... not being a bully

Would you prefer a candidate that brings him flowers and chocolates and incense? Or how about a stack of waffles?

No Thanks ADBD '04

[Mz Pip]

46. What a laugh!

And Dean is???

MzPip
:dem:

[tameszu]

56. A profile in courage.

Remember: beating your opponents over the head with an issue on which you never had to vote or take a position until after you got to see which way the political wind was blowing is the pinnacle of intellectual courage.

[Melodybe]

61. Look Clark DID A GOOD JOB, he is saying things that need to be said.

For that I am happy to cheer him on. Even though I am a Dean supporter, I really like Clark. We are not going to win this election with kid gloves, we have to wake Americans up to the reality that this administration is responsible for some truly horrendous things. Bu$h sees average Americans as nothing more than peons and the people will have to know this. It is not pretty but it is the truth.

[Melinda]

36. Wowsa, I'm impressed! Love the tax plan, admire the cojones!

Very, very nice - well done General Clark. :)

[bain_sidhe]

41. Thank you!

Not speaking for Gen. Clark, of course, but as a Clark supporter, it's Dean supporters like you that make me hope that we CAN come together after the primaries are over. I worry about that sometimes, with the... er... less civil sorts that sometimes stomp through candidates' threads.

[Clark4VotingRights]

44. The best defense is a good offense

One that most Dems won't use.
This guy's got guts.

I love how he called Rove out, an acknowledgment
that he's Bush's Brain.

[Armstead]

50. Good for Clark. We need to challemnge that "class warfare" crap

I'm a Dean guy, but this appeals to me for the same reason. We have to stop running away from the Republicans and worrying about what they and the "swing voters" might think if we actually become pro-active and aggressive.

[Turkw]

54. Rove and the industry of hate and lies must be taken on as well, we all

have to fight them, every single democrat, liberal, and progressive. The damage they are doing to this country is astounding.

[giantrobot_2000]

60. ...

Daaaaaaayum! Way to go, Clark!

Bush and Karl better bring their Huggies Pull-Ups to this fight!

"I DARE YOU!" I love it, go Wes!