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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:35 PM
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MSNBC: Fineman just said Hillary would not attack McCain. Speech will be about her historic run.
Say it ain't so!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:36 PM
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1. Fuck, so 2012 it is then.
Shit. :(
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:36 PM
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2. According to the MSNBC ticker
The Obama campaign has seen her speech and are "very pleased" with it. So I can't imagine that it's not on topic.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:44 PM
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27. Let's hope Fineman is 'talking out of his ass' on this.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:47 PM
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36. Let's keep in mind
What Obama really needs and wants HRC right now is for her to push her supporters to his side. That's 18 million votes that can't hurt come November. There's plenty of time between now and then to bash McPOW. HRC needs to use tonight to help heal this much touted "fracture" within the party. If she's able to unify hers and his, then she'll have done her job tonight.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:21 PM
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49. Yeah... I guess you have a point.
I said begrudgingly.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:36 PM
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3. and he knows this .... how?
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:36 PM
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4. I really, really hope Fineman is wrong.
Now I'll go back to biting my tongue until November. But damn if the worst happens, I'm gonna have some stuff to say.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:36 PM
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5. Please, no....she already gave that speech FFS.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:38 PM
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6. Whatever..everyone else is doing a stellar job
attacking mccain!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:40 PM
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16. But hers is the only speech that will be shown and covered
I'm on C-Span, too, and I agree the speeches have been sharp tonight. Meantime, every time I check to see what the cable news channels are doing, they're yammering about nothing.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:47 PM
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35. I know..she should do it but
we'll just have to see what happens.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:38 PM
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7. And the Obama campaign is pleased?
Bullshit. Howard's been wrong before. If he's right this time, our guys need to be checked out by physicians to see what happened to their gonads.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:38 PM
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8. How can Axelrod be HAPPY with that speech, then?
Keith said that Axelrod wasn't worried about
the lack of attacks on BombBomb and when asked
about that, he just laughed and said, "You
haven't seen tonight's speech."
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:41 PM
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18. What's he supposed to say?
Sigh.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:38 PM
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9. it ain't so! n/t
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:38 PM
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10. Axelrod has seen the speech and is very pleased with it..
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 07:39 PM by DCBob
MSM media is hyping this to keep eyeballs.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:52 PM
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41. Really DC? I so hope so..
'cause damnit that would be good strategy when you're trying to win against mccain and his, the corporate media.

Mayor of Fairbanks, Jim Whitaker(R) just endorsed Obama!! :patriot: :bounce: :party:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:41 PM
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56. That would be good news. nt
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:39 PM
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11. I don't believe it
Fineman is usually wrong
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optimisticin08 Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:39 PM
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12. Clinton and McCain are good friends
Thats what i keep hearing on MSNBC.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:40 PM
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13. Let's wait and see.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:41 PM
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17. You tell 'em Hedley.!
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:41 PM
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19. Thanks ronny.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 07:42 PM by Harvey Korman
This shit is working my last nerve.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:47 PM
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34. lol i'm mad that i 'get' that
i'm getting fucking old
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:00 PM
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42. Count Mookie in on that praise.
ER: Yeah, what Mook says!

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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:42 PM
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21. Excellent response.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Like we would believe Fineman?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:43 PM
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23. What are they going to say?
"We don't approve and we think she's really hurting us"? Even if that's what they thought, they can't say it.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:44 PM
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25. OH MY GOD.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 07:44 PM by Harvey Korman
I'm convinced. It's a fucking ILLNESS. Go eat some raw meat to stave off your appetite, and then you can rip her to shreds when she comes on at 10:30.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:47 PM
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33. What?
I'm just saying that if they *were* to be dissatisfied they couldn't say so, so simply stating that the Obama campaign says they're happy isn't proof of anything.

I think it'll be a fine, unifying speech. I hope she attacks McCain, and I'll be a little let down if she doesn't, but I don't think she's going to hurt Obama at all. I'm not "one of them".
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:45 PM
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28. LOL!
Amen, brother! :thumbsup:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:40 PM
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15. Pffffft...
That's the sound of the wind leaving my sails.

:(
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:42 PM
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20. How about we all wait to actually hear the speech?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:44 PM
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26. What a radical concept!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:06 PM
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45. Naaaw!
For all of the "I hate the MSM" talk ... when it comes to gossip this place is like a bunch of Rona Barrett fans!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:23 PM
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50. Rona! What happened to her?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:36 PM
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53. She's still around.
For my 6th grade grad ... my mom got me a subscription to her mags.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:43 PM
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22. So what else is on?
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:44 PM
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24. Fineman has been
talking shit about Hillary for months. Dismiss him.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:45 PM
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29. Wonder what Chelsea will talk about? n/t
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:08 PM
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47. I think she will introduce her mom. Or narrate for a video just before Hillary speaks.
Or something like that.
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:45 PM
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30. Axelrod has seen the speech.
Fineman has seen nothing, so he spews nonsense.

We'll all know soon enough.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:46 PM
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31. He's hated the Clintons since Day One. nt
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:47 PM
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32. He's wrong
Axelrod has seen the speech and is happy with it.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:48 PM
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37. Fineman knows nothing. He is constantly wrong about these things.
Her former press secretary said that she would attack Mccain, but it would be a statesman like tone instead of an angry tone, like "I'm friends with him, but we disagree..." I think that Biden, as a friend of McCain's, have struck the right chord with how to do this approach correctly.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:49 PM
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38. Figures...It's ALL about the Clinton's...
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 08:01 PM by Raine
ALWAYS has been, ALWAYS will be x( and anyway it's what goes on behind the scenes that matter. The Clinton's can fall all over themselves supporting Obama in their speeches but what they do beyond that is what matters. Bill is the one I worry about most, he can't control his mouth or his bitterness.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:49 PM
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40. Don't just assume Howard is correct, you don't think he likes to stir the shit? Can you
at least wait to hear from the Senator herself first?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:04 PM
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43. Well we know all about when one ASSUMES?
They make an ASS out of U and ME.

But in this case it's just make an ASS out of themselves.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:05 PM
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44. I edited my post
my real concern is Bill and what is going on behind the scenes. I think in her speech Hillary will do what she needs to, it's what goes on besides that that's the real concern.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 07:30 AM
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73. How stupid do you feel this morning?
Do try not to lap up the MSM slop quite so eagerly.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 05:56 PM
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74. Gee I feel real stupid
does that make you feel better because it makes you so much more superior. :sarcasm:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:49 PM
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39. You know, I'm going to watch the speech myself and make my own decision
I don't need Howard Fineman to think for me.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:07 PM
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46. THANK YOU!!!
damned sheep... baahhhh... baahhhh... those bahhhh-stards!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:20 PM
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48. Yep. That's what I figured.. Her speech would be about herself. Typical.
:eyes:
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:24 PM
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51. Do you believe everything anybody tells ya?
I mean, come on.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:25 PM
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52. Hopefully he's wrong. I'll wait before I pounce nt
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:40 PM
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54. Not that historic. She's not the first woman to have her name placed in the nomination (and lose).
How ironic that on the night of her speech, there actually were snipers around, unlike Tuzla!

:p

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:41 PM
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55. Enough about her already.
You know, maybe she and McCain ought to meet for lunch. She can talk about how mean everyone's been to her - and he can just keep mumbling POW stories.

So long as the rest of us don't need to listen anymore.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 07:23 AM
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72. *yawn*
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:42 PM
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57. Didn't she do the whole "historic campaign" thing earlier?
Yeah, I really get that she will touch on this again, but jeeze. What we need is a reprise of her "historic campaign", but this time focused on McCain!
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:45 PM
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58. I hope not, or I'll have to switch the channel and watch something else. nt
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:58 PM
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59. I'll be a good bit of change that she does both in her speech
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:09 PM
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60. Pre-bitching is lame
you'll see for yourself directly and then you can much more sensibly praise or complain.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:15 PM
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61. Agreed, also my post's meaning was distorted via typo
I meant to say "I'll bet a good bit of change that she will do both" meaning that I think it's going to be a good speech and do what it needs to do.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:18 PM
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62. LOL. Pre-bitching!
I like that! :rofl:
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:19 PM
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63. I keep telling you she would not attack McCain. She wants him to win.
She wants to be the nominee next time around. Too bad Bill did not tell her that if she contributes to Obama losing then she will never be the nominee of the party. She would be lucky to keep her senate seat.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 06:04 PM
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75. You must be brain dead!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:03 PM
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64. Dumbass Fineman.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:06 PM
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65. Fineman = EPIC FAIL. Where did he get that info? Out of his ass?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:08 PM
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66. It ain't so! She's great tonight.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:09 PM
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67. Let this be a lesson about the mainstream media:
NEVER, EVER let the mainstream media bait you into attacking a fellow Democrat ever again. Too often, we take the bait, fall into the trap, and waste energy fighting amongst ourselves, tearing each other down.

Thank you, Hillary!
Now, let's go turn that map deep blue! Let's send McCain home with his tail tucked twixt his legs! :bounce: :party:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:09 PM
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68. ROFL
OOPS, Howard Done Fucked Up...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:10 PM
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69. It aint so.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:10 PM
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70. Yeah, she mentioned her run, but guess what?
She tied it into the larger theme (the need to elect Obama and Biden), and made everything work.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 07:21 AM
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71. Hillary did what she needed to do last night. Let's hope her reluctant supporters follow her lead.
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