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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:23 PM
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Question: Was Marijuana legal in 1964?
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 03:42 PM by crimsonblue
Palin has stated she smoked pot "when it was legal, but didn't like it". Now assuming she didn't do it in the womb, she was probably at least 16 when she tried it. Was pot legal in 1980?


Edit: I'd like to mention that I'm totally pro-reefer. I just think it is ingenuous for someone her age to say she legally smoked it, and that she didn't like it. I call BULLSHIT. Who doesn't like pot? Yeah, it may make you hack for 2 or 3 minutes, but after, it's fucking golden baby.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:24 PM
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1. I believe it was in Alaska.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:24 PM
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2. Not when I was in high school in the early 70's
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:25 PM
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3. she was BORN in 64
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:26 PM
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4. if she is only 44, she would only be 4 years old in 64
I don't think it was legal for her to smoke dope at 4 whether it was legal or not. ;)
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:38 PM
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15. No, she was an infant in 1964.
:)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:52 PM
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29. errmmm
i'm math challenged :silly:

thanks for correcting me :blush:

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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:20 PM
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36. It happens to the best of us.
:D
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aquamarina Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:38 PM
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16. She would have been Zero in 1964 - she was 4 in 1968
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:50 PM
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28. LOL, I meant I was 4 in 64
:blush:

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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:27 PM
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5. Personal use is still legal
http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/979

marijuana will remain legal in Alaska!
Submitted by srlinuxx on Wed, 05/18/2005 - 08:45. legal
Last September the Alaska Supreme Court upheld a previous ruling that allows adults aged 21 and older to use and possess up to four ounces of marijuana in the privacy of their homes -- and not just for medical use. The MPP grants program funded this litigation.

A few months ago, Alaska Gov. Frank Murkowski (R) declared that re-criminalizing marijuana would be one of his top legislative priorities this year. At his urging, the state legislature introduced twin bills to impose the same penalty for the possession of four ounces of marijuana as for incest -- five years in prison!

MPP fought back. Working with Alaskans for Marijuana Regulation and Control, we funded radio ads slamming the bills, called thousands of Alaska voters to get them to complain to their legislators, and, with the help of the Alaska Civil Liberties Union, lined up experts to testify before key committees. And we succeeded at ensuring that all newspapers in the state covered this public outcry.

After four months of hand-to-hand combat, the state legislature adjourned for the year without even coming close to passing the legislation. And, when the governor called the legislature back into session for the summer, he decided against putting the bad marijuana legislation on the legislature's docket.

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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:29 PM
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7. Lot of DU'ers are thinking about packing up right about now. LOL
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:43 PM
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24. Those extra long days make for a wonderful growing season! n/t
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:58 PM
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30. LOL No doubt.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:05 PM
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34. If I recall, it was known in the lower 48 as
"Thunderfuck."
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:28 PM
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6. marijuana illegalness
I thought it was made illegal in the late 1930's.

Long dormant seldom used laws probably got dusted off and enforced again during the 60's, as a means to repress all those malcontent protesting youth and subversive foreign artists that dared criticize the highly benevolent flower power Nixon administration.

So this looks like her first campaign gaffe of record, as pot was never legal in her lifetime in the USA.

My input, anyway...


-90% Jimmy
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:30 PM
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8. In Alaska, if I understand correctly.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:30 PM
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9. I think possession of pot in Alaska became legal in the mid 1970s
by virtue of a court ruling. THe legality was called into question in around 1990 by virtue of a voter initiative, I think.

In any event, its not unlikely that she could have smoked some weed in her college years in the 1980s when it was legal.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:35 PM
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13. especially since she didn't go to college in Alaska
I believe she went to college in Idaho.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:36 PM
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14. I assume she came home for summers.
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 03:37 PM by onenote
Hung out with pals, smoked some weed.

Its what I did. And I didn't live in Alaska.

Hell, she might have even tried it when she was in high school. Again, that's what I first lit up. I know folks who tried it and then decided they didn't like it. And others who 35 years later still regularly light up.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:30 PM
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10. Here are Alaska's current marijuana laws.
Possession of one ounce or less of marijuana in the privacy of the home is legal. The status of possessing an amount between one ounce and four ounces is unclear, pending clarification by the courts. Possession of 4 ounces or more of marijuana is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $50,000.

Possession of less than 25 plants is protected under the Alaska Constitution’s right to privacy (See Ravin v. Alaska). Possession of 25 or more marijuana plants is “Misconduct involving a controlled substance in the fourth degree” and is punishable by a fine of up to $50,000 or five years in prison.



http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4522

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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:32 PM
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11. wouldn't it have still been a federal offense though?
like now, the feds can still go in and bust state-approved medical marijuana dispensaries?
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:38 PM
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17. It's okay, though, because she didn't like it.
:P
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:33 PM
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12. Nope, And Federal Law Supersedes State Law
Therefore, no matter what it was illegal. You'd think a Governor would know that, wouldn't you?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:39 PM
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19. so you think the feds should start busting people in Alaska?
Of course you don't. She didn't say she tried it when she was governor. Like most people she probably tried it in her teens when folks in Alaska essentially condoned it, federal law or no federal law.

BFD
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:46 PM
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25. Nope, In Fact, I Think It Should Be Legal
But that doesn't change the fact that it wasn't. Hell, the Bush administration has been making the argument that the State laws are invalid.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:42 PM
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23. Pretty much every western state with a medical marijuana law disagrees.
Criminal law falls to the states in most cases, and simple possession is one of them.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:48 PM
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27. I Believe The Feds Would Disagree With You nt
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:08 PM
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35. And 10+ years of court cases and political wrangling haven't cleared the matter up.
:shrug:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:59 PM
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32. For what its worth, she didn't claim it was legal under federal law
In fact, quite the opposite -- she acknowledged that it was illegal under federal law even though it was legal under Alaska law when she tried it.

This is not an issue.
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bobd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:38 PM
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18. No, marijuana has NOT been legal in the USA in Palin's lifetime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_marijuana_in_the_United_States

The first significant instance of marijuana regulation appeared in Washington D.C. in 1906. Prohibitions of marijuana soon followed in the other states. By the mid-1930s, marijuana was regulated in every state by laws instituted through The Uniform State Narcotic Act.<1>

The federal drug policy of the United States began with the 1937 Marihuana Tax Act,<2> and the establishment of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics. DuPont and William Randolph Hearst played a role in the criminalization of marijuana. In the 1950s, strict mandatory sentencing laws substantially increased federal penalties for marijuana possession (but were removed in the 1970s). In 1964, the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs entered into force, for the first time placing the U.S. under treaty obligations to control marijuana production and distribution. In the 1980s, mandatory sentencing laws were reinstated for large-scale marijuana distribution, three strikes laws were enacted and applied to marijuana possession, and the death sentence was enabled for marijuana drug kingpins.

In the 1970s, many places in the United States started to decriminalize marijuana. Most places that have decriminalized marijuana have one or more of civil fines, drug education, drug treatment in place of incarceration, criminal charges for possession of small amounts of marijuana, or have made various marijuana offenses the lowest priority for law enforcement. In the 1990s many places began to legalize medical marijuana, which conflicts with federal laws, as marijuana is a Schedule I drug according to the Controlled Substances Act of 1970, which classified marijuana as having high potential for abuse, no medical use, and not safe to use under medical supervision. Multiple efforts to reschedule marijuana have failed and the United States Supreme Court has ruled in United States v. Oakland Cannabis Buyers' Coop and Gonzales v. Raich that the federal government has a right to regulate and criminalize marijuana, even for medical purposes.


If Palin's statement on her pot smoking is any indication, this should be a very interesting campaign season.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:39 PM
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20. Gee. You'd think the governor would know this informaiton.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:40 PM
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21. and why does her statement make this interesting?
Obama admits to drug use in his past as well. Its a big fat non-issue.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:47 PM
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26. Obama Didn't Claim It Was Legal. nt
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:58 PM
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31. and she acknowledged that it wasn't legal under federal law too
Again, this is so not an issue worthy of two milliseconds discussion.

http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/governor06/story/8049298p-7942233c.html
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:40 PM
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22. Did she say what she didn't like about it?
Did it give her bad thoughts or something?
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bobd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:04 PM
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33. It made her feel good and for a Republican woman that's verboten
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 05:01 PM
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37. I Think She Said It Made Her Pregnant nt
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 07:37 PM
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38. I dont, the three times I tried it tossed my cookies
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kwyjibo Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 07:43 PM
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39. mmm... cookies.
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