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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:03 PM
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Gallup does it again with their "likely voters" model.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/tables/live/2004-08-29-poll.htm

Among registered voters, those are all good results, but they create that bullshit likely voter model to skew the results towards the Republicans. God, they make me sick.
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:06 PM
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1. I don't think many undecideds have actually been polled...
I thinks me smells a rat with all these polls. Nobody has ever polled ANYONE I know, how about you???
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:08 PM
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2. No one has ever polled me
or anyone I know. And I've asked, a lot. We are all registered voters, we've voted before and no one has ever asked me or mine.

Maybe because we are in Texas????

But nope, never.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:15 PM
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3. We need to make sure we get a good voter turnout
Normally, "Likely voter" polls are more accurate than "Registered Voter" polls. This year, however, there is so much energy to drive this asshole from office that we can probably expect a larger than normal voter turnout. At least that is what happened in the primaries. There were record turnouts for the Democratic primaries, but the turnouts for the Republican primaries was lower than normal, even considering that they were voting for an incumbent.

We must ensure that we get people out to vote. That is more important than persuading the undecided.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:25 PM
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4. Think that's bad?
Gallup is in charge of getting so called undecided voters from Ohio for the second presidential debate. They also want the questions pre submitted "to make sure there are no repeats" prior to the debate itself!

LOL don't ya love it?
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:50 PM
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5. New Voters
New voters won't be "likely" voters. And this president has created a whole slew of new voters.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:02 AM
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6. You can look at both results
Not all registered voters vote. Usually only 60-70%.

100% of likely voters should vote. In the national results Gallup uses a turnout model predicting 55% turnout among national adults. 50% showed up in 2000. In their state likely voter model they look back at previous elections and adjust it from there.
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