The New Deal...

[rndmprsn]

I believe IMHO that the playbook by which to beat conservative over the head and the path to electoral victory was written by FDR long ago...is it reasonable to ask why not our democrats and obama are running on the basics of FDR's simple message?

[Fovea]

1. I think that the last eight years of NeoCon politics and economics

will turn out to be the best thing that has happened to progressives since the WPA.

I think the compact between America and her Citizens needs to be more frankly framed as such.
A deal between the government and the governed that specifies performance on each party.

It must restrain business and guarantee its legitimate performance. It must stop abusive accounting, restrain offshoring, require corporate citizenship in return for personhood.

Income inequality should actively be reversed.

And Secretary of a combined Commerce and Labor Robert Reich is just the guy to do it.

[ContinentalOp]

2. Haha, I agree! I argued that to some friends of mine around 2002/03 and they thought I was crazy.

But really, if Gore had taken office, wouldn't we be seeing a Lieberman vs. Bush election right now? :puke:

With any luck, if we can fight their lies, media bias, and election fraud, we can get to the point where the republican "brand" is indelibly damaged for decades to come.

[Cosmocat]

4. the one good thing about the Gore "loss" ...

These pukebags have milked 9-11 for all its worth, but because they were in power, and in total power, and have freaked up beyond all belief ...

Had Gore been elected, and had 9-11 occured on his watch, he would have been EVICERATED, and the Rs would have had the "power" of 9-11 on the back end BIG TIME.

As is, again, the party is massively distressed from the undeniable failure of its platform - and faces an ever growing demographic challenge, as has been reported this year that in the next 30 years, there will be a majority of NON whites.

As you noted, this election is HUGE. Get BO past the media, the election fraud, and get him into office.

[tech3149]

3. There's just one big problem

When Roosevelt ran, he didn't run on a platform of progressive reforms. He was just another rich white guy that the financial elite thought would be an acceptable alternative. Huey Long proffered the ideas that Roosevelt implemented. I don't remember the economic advisers who guided his policies, but I am sure his wife had a great influence. We can thank FDR for having the intellect and judgment to take the advice given and separate the wheat from the chaff. As Obama, he was eager to hear all viewpoints and didn't care for yes men.

[andym]

5. True, FDR offered no specifics in 1932

True, FDR offered no specifics in the 1932 campaign except of the idea of CHANGE (New Deal). But as soon as he became President, he gathered together some of the brightest minds of the era and started to experiment with the American economy (independently of Long and his desire to redistribute wealth in 1932-3).
When they found something didn't work, they'd scrap it and try another idea. In some ways it was probably a time when government was most run like a scientific experiment (with no controls of course).