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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:12 PM Original message |
Can Obama even PRETEND like Universal Health Care might pass now? |
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gcomeau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. It can be implemented if they do it right and go all the way. |
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Union Thug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. And this is the great crime... |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yep, the billionaires have banked their money from the Bush years and will earn interest |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 02:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. You are exactly right. I have never been so embarrassed either. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. He can't do it as long as he sticks with conventional thinking. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Yes, we need another New Deal type overhaul. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. Because he's been SOOOOO dishonest so far? |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I think he wants UHC to pass, I think he knew even before this that it probably wouldn't |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. And you're very concerned about Obama being dishonest. |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Tell you what hotshot, why don't you search my 1500 posts supporting Obama |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Nah - this post suffices. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. You're being extremely unfair. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. If he goes after the rich 5% who are not carrying their fair share of the tax |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. Dupe |
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Cosmic Charlie (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. Can you even pretend to support Obama now? |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. LOL, nice try troll- *plonk* |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. I disagree |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. UHC has been my most fervent wish for years- you're preaching to the choir |
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Kilroy003 (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
13. Who knows, Medicare might be easily considered |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. If the $96,000 cap is lifted on the SS/ Medicare payroll deductions, |
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Kilroy003 (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That sounds like a good idea to me. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. This is why some changes need to be made to include all income not just |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
38. Yep. It really is that simple. |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
15. Cut the Pentagon budget by 25% |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. That's not going to happen. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
16. UHC will be held hostage by bills we already owe -- and by not wanting |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. People covered by AIG now have US backed health insurance /nt |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
22. No, It Shoudnt Interfere |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
23. I question your premise that taxpayers will have to pony up half a trillion |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Interesting reply, thanks |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Do you know the website abnormalreturns.com? IMO that's the best single resource |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
24. Actually, the bailouts make universal health care more likely, politically ... |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. YOU GOT IT!!! If we can SOCIALIZE the RISKS and PRIVATIZE the PROFITS... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. That would help employers & employment, as well. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Yep, it would decrease their health care costs and would remove endangering worker health ... |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-18-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
27. And Universal Healthcare will Drop our spending |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 03:30 AM Response to Original message |
33. Do you know what Obama would have to do to get NHS? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
34. New Deal |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Great point! In a severe crisis , a genius politician like Obama could step up, |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
37. It Should Be Part Of Some Grand Bargain |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
41. It's either that or millions more lose their health care |
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jjanpundt (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
42. Maybe he could slash the defense budget? n/t |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
43. There were two economics experts on CNN a few minutes ago |
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endthewar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-19-08 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
44. President for 4 year and control both Houses of Congress. |
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