Top ten reasons why Dean will beat Bush in a landslide!

[doubles]

1) The talking heads on radio are shaking in their boots, Hannity, Limbaugh et al are predicting a Bush landslide against Dean in an attempt to sway liberal listeners. They fear Dean as much as Clinton, it is the only reason he is such a target for them. If they had their way, they would prefer we elect Lieberman or Zell Miller. I have not heard someone targeted as much as Howard Dean since Bill Clinton and we all know Clinton would have won a 3rd term even with all the negative press from TV and hate radio. This is my biggest sign folks, the conservatives are scared of Dean because he has the huevos to challenge Bush and is not afraid to question these Repugs on their policies. He will eat Bush for dinner during the debates.

2) The biggest Weapon of Republican Destruction is the TRUTH and Dean WILL deliver. None of the other candidates are as bold and willing to tell the truth. Dean was the first one to oppose the war even after being warned "be careful" after a Sunday morning interview. With the exception of Clark, the other Washington insiders sound like a bunch of weasels (except Sharpton and Brown) AFRAID of the Republicans, they have fallen hook, line and sinker for Republican bait!

3) Without most of the country hearing his message, he only trails Bush by 5 points.

4) We have the Nader voters coming home.

5) Dean has more magnetism than Gore and is not afraid to tell the truth.

6) Millions of Americans are confused with Bush's foreign policy, when they hear the truth, it is only one way to go.

7) This country was heading to the left under Clinton if it was not for their political lynching. The Repugs believe they have it in the bag but they forgot Daddy Bush made the same mistakes, they forgot Gore beat Bush by half a million votes, they forgot if Nader stayed home, there would not have been the selection! We are taking our country back!

8) I hope Clark will do what is best for the country and accept the VP slot under Dean if asked. Clark obviously is protecting his own campaign by announcing he would not be a VP, I hope he reconsiders and help take the country back. If he refuses, I will be convinced, he is a Clinton plant and will never forgive my former hero, Big Dawg for such a selfish agenda. If Clark refuses, we will win with Brown as VP! There is an obvious admiration of Dean by Carol Moseley Brown.

9) Dean has the boldness, the tenacity, the honesty, he already announced a repeal of Bush's taxes, he did not lie to the middle class to say, he will not repeal the tax cuts, he knows the truth and a TOTAL REPEAL is what is needed to balance the budget. Dean has the right message, he has integrity!

10) If Dean can stop stereotyping the South (religion, pickup trucks and confederate flags) I predict we win by a landslide. I agree with him, Jesus is a liberal! Who else is willing to make such a bold statement?

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[MercutioATC]

1. Well said, Doubles!

We may disagree on a couple of minor points, but I , too believe that Dean has the message that will get us a win. It's definitely an uphill battle, but Dean does more in-your-face, honest, plain talking than any of the other candidates, IMO. Thanks for your support!

[PassingFair]

2. Well done, Doubles!

I'm with you all the way, well...
with the exception of VP. I suspect it will be either Graham or Edwards, or someone I've never heard of. Chance of female VP would bring the repukes out in droves on voting day. Best leave the trailblazing for a less essential election.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

3. btw its Braun

not Brown. But good post, and another thing Braun is probably not the ideal VP.

[Tweed]

11. Yeah

Brown would be quite the waste of a VP nod.

[doubles]

20. Oops, my bad...... nt

[silverweb]

4. Bravo!

Positive thinking and eliminating the circular firing squad will definitely put us ahead. :D

The only thing I have to disagree with is that Carol Mosely-Braun is a viable VP choice. I think she is a marvelous and gifted woman and I dearly wish that she could be VP, but much of the backwards-thinking citizenry of this nation is just not ready to elect any woman, let alone a woman of color, to the presidency or vice presidency. I know, though, that President Dean will have a choice cabinet or other position for her, where she will be able to shine. :)

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[laidbackkid]

6. Dean's weak on gun control

The assault weapons ban is coming up for renewal. It should be extended indefinitely and include a ban on all handguns,including those used by the police.

Many of our impoverished citizens fear the police, if the police didn't have handguns, those people would feel much safer and crime would be reduced.

[JVS]

7. That is probably not a political possibility

I see no need to anger voters by telling them that you will do something that you can't. And for the voters who support such laws it will only make them angrier at you for failing to get those results

[HFishbine]

8. Dean's strong on the Constitution

including the second amendment.

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[RetroLounge]

18. How many threads are you gonna post this in?

even after it's been debunked?

[doubles]

21. You will never win an election if your message is to take away Bubba's gun

[Atlant]

22. Unfortunately for you, Dean's position on Gun Control...

> "Dean's weak on gun control"

Unfortunately for you, Dean's position on Gun Control lines up
rather well with the apparent mainstream of American thought on
this issue. (And I say this as a contributor to the Brady
Campaign, etc., so I'm no happier about this than you are.)

For once, the Repubs WON'T be able to use their guns against
us, and I know in NH that this issue has been the downfall of more
than one Democratic politician. Dick Swett, our only Democratic
Congressman since practically forever was destroyed over his vote
on the Brady Bill.

Atlant

[RetroLounge]

19. Who?

Was he at the last 2 debates this week?

[Tweed]

10. Good points, but...

Okay,
Reason number 1:
The Republicans are going to attack the fron runner no matter who he might be. That point doesn't show how Dean will win in a 'landslide'

Reason number 2:
You said it yourself, Clark can stand up to Bush and the Republicans as well. Again you fail to point out how that will be a 'landslide'.

Reason number 3:
The same can be said for Clark first off. You can also say that without Dean going through the Rove machine Dean is still behind by 5%. You have to admit that Clark has made less mistakes then Dean and won't be as easy to attack.

Reason number 4:
The way you make it sound, Green voters have no political backbone. Many Greens will vote Green again especially if Dean starts to fall behind. If the Democrat isn't going to win anway, the Greens will vote to try to get the 5% to be in the national debates.

Reason number 5:
Most people have more magnetism then Gore. Wesley Clark certainly does. Wesley Clark has magentism and can stay composed.

Reason number 6:
Many Americans think that a policy in action is better then a policy that comes from a man with no foriegn policy expierence. Wesley Clark...

Reason number 7:
The country may have been heading towards the left under Clinton, but now it is to the right. The Republicans control congress. Also considering the votes that Clinton got compared to Gore, the country was beginning to shift to the right in 2000, the other end of your point.

Reason number 8:
Wesley Clark as Dean's VP is your 8th point?! Why not just have Wesley Clark as the main man to begin with?

Reason number 9:
Wesley Clark has a better tax plan then Howard Dean because it will balance the budget and not put more of a burden on the middle class.
www.clark04.com/familiesfirst is the website for his tax plan.

Reason number 10:
Reason number ten is actually a negative thing about Dean?! Can you even come up with one reason Dean could win in a close race, let alone a landslide?!

[arewethereyet]

17. some more points

Okay,
Reason number 1:
"The Republicans are going to attack the fron runner no matter who he might be. That point doesn't show how Dean will win in a 'landslide'"
wouldn't it be better to have a candidate with no inexplicable history to arm the right ? Edwards for example ? The right have better material on General Clark than they have for Dr Dean.

Reason number 2:
"You said it yourself, Clark can stand up to Bush and the Republicans as well. Again you fail to point out how that will be a 'landslide'."
No standing after the strafing he'll get from number one.

Reason number 3:
"The same can be said for Clark first off. You can also say that without Dean going through the Rove machine Dean is still behind by 5%. You have to admit that Clark has made less mistakes then Dean and won't be as easy to attack."
Isn't this the same as number 1 ? Clark is at least as vunerable as Dean.

Reason number 4:
"The way you make it sound, Green voters have no political backbone. Many Greens will vote Green again especially if Dean starts to fall behind. If the Democrat isn't going to win anway, the Greens will vote to try to get the 5% to be in the national debates."
Edwards can rally the faithful, Clark can only lead the troops.

Reason number 5:
"Most people have more magnetism then Gore. Wesley Clark certainly does. Wesley Clark has magentism and can stay composed."
Edwards can remember his whole platform, Clark can't remember how he planned to pay for AIDS research. Everyone has more magnatism than Gore, sorry but its true.

Reason number 6:
"Many Americans think that a policy in action is better then a policy that comes from a man with no foriegn policy expierence. Wesley Clark..."
Understanding of policy and how it's crafted and how to implement it would be nice. Edwards gets plum assignment to intel committee as a junior senator. He knows how it works, he understands all the facets and he's not heholden to the military (or any other) PACs.

Reason number 7:
"The country may have been heading towards the left under Clinton, but now it is to the right. The Republicans control congress. Also considering the votes that Clinton got compared to Gore, the country was beginning to shift to the right in 2000, the other end of your point."
Of the Dems elected president, they all were strangely like Edwards.

Reason number 8:
"Wesley Clark as Dean's VP is your 8th point?! Why not just have Wesley Clark as the main man to begin with?"
Why hang baggage on baggage ?

Reason number 9:
"Wesley Clark has a better tax plan then Howard Dean because it will balance the budget and not put more of a burden on the middle class.
www.clark04.com/familiesfirst is the website for his tax plan."
Neither tax plan holds a candle to Edwards. And Edwards knows how to get his plan enacted into law insted of empty undeliverable promises.

Reason number 10:
"Reason number ten is actually a negative thing about Dean?! Can you even come up with one reason Dean could win in a close race, let alone a landslide?!"
The only possible landslide is Bush's and unless we start looking for more reasoned alternatives we'll be aiding and abetting the right.

[Beaker]

12. because he won't be able to beat him in the November election

is about the only one that comes to mind.

[xultar]

13. Well said! n/t

[OneBlueSky]

14. no offense intended, but . . .

what color is the sky in your world? . . .

[maxr4clark]

15. Clark truly won't take a VP offer

...because he wouldn't be good at the job. The VP's primary function is to pull the administration's weight around in the Senate. Kerry or Gephardt would be much better at that than Clark, and Clark knows it. I also think Clark firmly believes that he can find a better way to help the country as a private citizen than to get stuck babysitting the Senate.

Clark is not a career politician. He is not thinking about running in 2008 if he doesn't win this year, so he isn't particularly interested in becoming VP as a stepping stone to running again next time. He has responded to a draft movement because he agrees that he is exactly the kind of leader the country needs this election year, and he sees exactly what he can do to help the country as President.

These are my own opinions, but they are formed based on my judgment of the man having read his book and all of his campaign literature.

Clark would make a better Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense than a VP. If Dean wins the nom, he should pick somebody else as his running mate, and get back to Clark about one of these two positions if and when he wins the Presidency. Until he does win the Presidency, though, Clark would be foolish to think Dean had the job to offer. And Clark isn't foolish.

The conspiracy theory that Clinton is manipulating the political scene for his own purposes with Clark as his tool is ridiculous, just as ridiculous as my recurring daydream that Kucinich is a Martian because he reminds me of the guy who played Martin in the old sitcom "My Favorite Martian".

[depakid]

23. Clark probably won't accept the VP spot

but not because he wouldn't be good at it in a high profile role like Dick Cheney plays- or because his positions are so different than Deans (they're actually very close on most issues). He probably won't accept the VP nomination because he has a general's ego- which isn't a criticism- just something I've observed. Actually, it's a necessary component of command and something you'd expect in a former NATO Supreme Commander. Without it, I doubt General Clark for all his intelligence, would have risen that far.

[Atlant]

24. It won't matter because Bob Graham will. (NT)

[takebackthewh]

16. Jesus

was more than a liberal. He was the first socialist.

[Hawkeye-X]

25. can I get an AMEN?

:D

[Atlant]

26. "AMEN, Brother Hawkeye!"

As it says right there on the license plate on the back of
big red Dodge Caravan: "SOCLST"!

And the bumper sticker right near it says "Better a bleading
heart than none at all". I may be mistaken, but I THINK, can
you hear what I'm sayin', I said I THINK that is a
reference to the Man himself, and what he would say NOW,
in our modern days! Amen, Brother! Halelujah!

Go on out there and VOTE FOR DEAN!

Atlant

[Atlant]

27. What? Nobody else will say "Amen!"??? (NT)