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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:40 AM
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Lies are the product of desparation
A simple analysis of this election makes things look very difficult for the GOP. 2000 was a high turnout election and this one figures to be as big or bigger. The problem for the GOP is that some percentage of the people who voted for * in 2000 will not do so again and, worse, some will vote for Kerry. Anecdotally, no one is talking about any block of Gore voters going to *'s side. That isn't the fuzzy math of "weighted polls." That is simple math.

The GOP can't run on *'s record of failures and they can't compare their guy to the real Kerry SO THEY LIE. Virtually everything they say about Kerry or about the current situation (war, economy, etc.) turns out to be a lie.

It seems to me the most efficient way to both clear the air and innoculate ourselves against the on-going barrage is to address the 2 biggest lies that are out there. Point out that lying is a sign of desparation and then make our points. Future lies could be addressed like this:

That is yet another desparate lie from people who are running away from the failures of their candidate. John Kerry's real position is _______
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:50 AM
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1. I tend to disagree
I see the increased sloppy use of lies by Republicans as proof that they have too much power and have become lazy, deluded, self-satisfied and indulgent in their whims.
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yolatengo Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:33 AM
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2. gore to bush voters
I just have a hunch that there ARE some Gore 2000 voters going to
Bush. They're hard to pinpoint, but I think they are the kind of people
who change their minds inside the voting booth.

I picture people who generally agree with Democratic Party principles,
are maybe Center-Right who voted Gore to keep things going the way
they were economically under Clinton. BUT, they've been 'traumatized'
by 9/11 and the war. Maybe they're a little prejudiced or at least
xenophobic, maybe they're a little America First and are "a little tired
of all these loser countries in the world fucking everything up so
maybe we SHOULD _take care of the problem_ before there's another
9/11". They don't look at the big picture and don't have much empathy
for The Other, but they're not rabid about it , though they don't think
through the consequences of their "kick their ass once a for all so
there's no more trouble" attitude. You might see them as someone
who intervenes when they catch their daughter's boyfriend slap their
daughter. They rightfully SHOULD stop the violence, but maybe he
ends up doing something like beating the boyfriend so bad he's in
a coma and then he wonders why HE'S being arrested for attempted
murder.

Anyway, I think Bush has been skillful in tearing down Trust in Kerry.
The Gore 2000->Bush voter just thinks "SOMETHING needs to be
done and I just don't trust Kerry to do it". The guy doesn't pay enough
attention to how many things Bush has f*cked UP, and isn't yet directly
impacted by them, so he just goes with the Bush 'resolve' to 'protect'
him (while asking for no discernible sacrifice).

I think there is a "set that f*cked up Middle East STRAIGHT, once and
for all to the detriment of all else" mentality lurking. It's xenophobia,
exceptionalism, religion and greed rolled into one, and neither party's
members are immune. The GOP just EXPLOITS their people like that.

Bigby
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