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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:31 PM
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Obama had a great polling day, absolutely brutal for McCain
Results in Pennslyvania and Ohio are particularly devastating for McCain. I think in some ways McCain could look at the results in Montana and say Indiana and pretend they are outliers, but he's heavily invested in Pennslyvania and it looks out of reach for him. And Ohio is an absolute must win for McCain and he looks to be sinking big there. This might be Obama's best polling day of the year. But it looks like Florida is solid for Obama right now. Georgia could be back into play. Wisconsin looks big for Obama. If these numbers are to be believed and they hold up, Obama is in landslide territory.

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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:35 PM
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1. yah, big day today
The Big Ten polling is brutal.

Obama could sweep the Big 10

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:40 PM
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4. It is devastating
Maybe their weighting system leans left, but even then, the numbers are still big.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:35 PM
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2. yah, big day today
The Big Ten polling is brutal.

Obama could sweep the Big 10

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:38 PM
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3. 9 point lead in Indiana! Holy Shit! And 7 point lead in FL. nt
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:41 PM
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5. Yeah amazing
If these are accurate and hold up, Obama will have totally rewritten the map.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:41 PM
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6. devestating MSM day for McCain as well. Psychogate and Macy'sgate blowing up
too bad Travelgate didn't get more traction.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:44 PM
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7. yes, not good at all
He's been showing signs of imploding for a few months now, he got a reprieve with his convention and Palin generated some excitement, but in the end all that did was make things worse. Now these scandals, just not good for him. A poorly run campaign at best.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:46 PM
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8. I like to look at the electoral map without toss ups.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:48 PM
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9. oh yes
Lots of blue :)
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:57 PM
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12. I would have Obama at just above 291
Giving McCain Florida, Missouri, Ohio and North Carolina ....

Really: This is going to be an amazing day for the Democrats ....
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:14 PM
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17. What do you see in those states?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:20 PM
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25. I see long histories in those states ....
I see states with proud and ignorant rightists refusing to go down without a fight, and being motivated by the mere idea of flipping to the Democrats ....

I will be VERY pleasantly surprised come Nov 5 if any are in our column ...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:46 AM
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26. I've thought the last two mentioned have been trending quite well
for us and Palin I think, hurts them in Florida. I actually like our chances in three out of four.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:04 PM
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33. The AA vote is looking very strong in early voting..
I bet we're going to see AA's and the under 25 bloc coming out in unprecedented numbers. It's really going to throw all convention out the window.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:50 PM
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10. OH & IN knocked my off my chair - whoa! PA looks awful consistent
I don't know what to say - seems too good to be true - even Nate at 538.com was dubious.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:17 PM
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18. He seems a little dubious, me too
But even if the pollster's methodology tilts Obama in the ones that look particularly good for him, there are some pretty significant trends going his way. Like I could dismiss one Ohio poll being up for Obama by several points, but two? That's making me wonder a little. So we'll see how it works out. PA does look consistent as does Florida now. Indiana, that would be a good pickup, I wouldn't hold my breath on it though. I still see that as a tough one to win in the end for The Big O.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:51 PM
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11. Is this the Powell bump, do you think?
Or are people officially sick of McCain's shit?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:13 PM
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15. Probably more like a several week slide that is getting
worse and worse and worse. Obama's had things go his way lately, like the Powell endorsement, but I don't know if that is any more significant than say McCain just being awful. Like the Palin clothes stuff, it's like you can't make up how badly run his campaign is, lol.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:14 PM
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16. I think coming right after the Powell endorsement is a big indicator that's what did it. nt
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:46 PM
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23. I would say probably not
Because most of these states have been trending this way for a while now. And some of the polls were taken on the day of and before the Powell endorsement, and the results aren't all that different with the ones after his announcement. It's probably more of a combo of the last several week's events, plus Powell, plus Palin going downhill etc etc.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:59 PM
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13. Down goes McCain!
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:10 PM
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14. Jazz hands!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:19 PM
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19. I might watch Morning Blow just to see Mika drunk, Pat explode and Joe
Scarboughrize into vulcan rubber.

Killer stats!
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:24 PM
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20. A lot of them are great news, but I'm really skeptical about a few of those polls
Some of those polls sound a bit hard for me to believe.

-Obama up by 9% in Indiana! If we win Indiana it's likely going to be by a narrow margin, a 4% win like the other Indiana poll predicts would be a miracle, but a win in Indiana by even a single vote does seem at least possible I'll agree.

-I'm really skeptical that after narrow single digit leads Obama and McCain have been trading in Ohio lately that Obama suddenly has a double digit lead there. Is there something wrong with the voter sample that's not reflective of the population of Ohio there? I mean seriously, if Obama were starting to pull away there then we should have seen polls like those two FL polls you posted giving Obama a 5% and 7% lead down there.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:38 PM
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21. you have to look at those surprising ones as outliers
Right now. You can't outright dismiss them, but just figure they are maybe a little too favorable to Obama until more info comes in to compare them with. I'd say Obama isn't up by 9 in Indiana, probably closer to a few points, if anything. Obama has two polls that list him up by 2 and 4, and then this big one, and Zogby has one with McCain up by over 10! So given all things considered this looks like it's probably a state that tilts Obama by a point or two. Same with Ohio, although you may have missed it but Obama has had three polls lately that give him double-digit leads in Ohio. A few more have him up by 2-5 and McCain has a few that have him up by 2 points or so. We'll know more soon if these bigger numbers are reflective of an Obama blowout or not. Likely, these races are a big tighter than that, but he's still got a few point lead on McCain.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:41 PM
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22. From to celebrate to early but loving the numbers !!!!
:bounce:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:47 PM
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24. I won't be happy until January when he's sitting in the Oval Office lol
:)
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Jemmons Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:54 AM
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27. As for stealing the election (again)
they might just lack the desire to do that by now. Would anyone crazy enough to want to do that really do that for the benefit of McCain? In their twisted minds they will probably lust for a Sahrah Palin presidency, but then it gets really complicated.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 06:45 AM
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28. Are you saying that Sam the Non Plumber, formerly of Alaska, did not turn the tide? Stunned here.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:59 PM
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29. if you can believe that
Amazing, huh? :)
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:59 PM
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30. Wait until you see the weekend polls, after the "B girl" incident
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:00 PM
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31. k&r Great numbers!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:02 PM
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32. He went all in for Pennsylvania and it's slipping from him..
he's run an absolutely horrible campaign. It may have worked four years ago when the public was full of xenophobia, but he just couldn't adjust to the current times, while Obama could with ease.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:19 PM
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34. Clinton beat Dole 379 EVs to 159. Will Obama reach Clinton's total?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:23 PM
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35. ROFLOL: McCain campaign adviser endorses Obama -- holy crap! (Not a joke)
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/239703.php

Conservative legal scholar and Reagan Solicitor General Charles Fried, who just endorsed Obama, isn't just a Republican. He's actually one of McCain's campaign advisors.

How to tell when your campaign is screwed to the wall.
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FUCK_BUSH Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:27 PM
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37. This should be in Breaking News !!!
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:28 PM
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38. That is sooooooo sad. The McSame campaign workers must be holding on by their fingernails.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:31 PM
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40. Or . . . . .
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:39 PM
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41. oh no!
lol
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FUCK_BUSH Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:26 PM
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36. Excellent Numbers,But we have to work harder b/c they will try to steal PA and OH.Mark my word.We
have to work harder now.


IT'S NOT OVER TILL IT'S OVER
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:31 PM
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39. McCain's campaign thinks it has a chance at PA
The only way that's going to happen is if the election is rigged.
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