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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:01 AM
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The results out of GA are pure BS.
Georgia and North Carolina are very similar states, demographically. Politically, they're also quite similar. In fact, I might argue that Atlanta makes Georgia slightly more liberal. The weather was good in both states today. Early voting in both states broke records.

Yet, now, it's 1:00 A.M. EST, and NC has not yet been called for either Presidential candidate because McCain and Obama are running neck and neck while GA was called hours ago with McCain winning handily, 55% to 44%. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#mapPGA

B.S.

And our Senate race was a dead heat yesterday. All polling indicated that we were headed for a run-off with neither major candidate getting over 50% of the vote. Chambliss was polling at 47% yesterday. Yet, today, this race gets called quite early with Chambliss winning 52% to 44%, according to CNN at this hour. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#mapSGA

B.S.

If you ask me, I would say another two Democratic candidates have been robbed, as have the people of this state as well as the people of the United States, by Diebold. I do not trust these results at all. They do not make any sense. Our Secretary of State and our voting machines must go!

:mad:

The United States is a LIBERAL Country. And Georgia is a moderate state. We voted for Clinton in '92, and we gave the country Jimmy Carter in 1976. I so wanted my home state to be on the right side of history in this historic election, but we have been denied that right, I believe, by people who loathe democracy and machines that can easily be programmed to subvert the will of the people.

In sadness on this night of joy,

-Laelth


Cross-posted in the Georgia forum.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:04 AM
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1. I'm surprised by the results in GA.
I thought it would be a lot closer.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some hanky panky going on behind the scenes.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:06 AM
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2. Yeah I have to wonder about how the polls can be so different from the reported result
Of course I almost cried as I cast my vote into the Diebold Fudge-o-Matic 2000 Voting Approximator this morning. I wished my ballot well. I told it I hoped it would count, and my hands shook as I let it go. Who knows what really happened after that. What else could I do?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:09 AM
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6. Hopefully this is the last time you vote on Diebold or any electronic machine for that matter..
And everyone in the U.S. goes all-paper ballots with optical scan.

And Election Day is a national holiday.

Hawkeye-X
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:10 AM
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7. There's nothing more you could have done.
When people ask me who I voted for, I say, "Well I think I voted for Obama, but I don't know what Diebold has to say about that."

The machines simply need to go. I want mandatory, hand-counted, paper-ballots for all Federal elections by 2010. That's what they've got in Canada, and it works just fine!

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:07 AM
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3. Not really suprised, apparently they were able to steal some but not all...
one cannot be everywhere...they did try thats a fact...its more than obvious they could have gotten to some...
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asksam Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:17 AM
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18. Agreed. It would not suprise me to find out that several states were stolen by the Rethugs.
As it is, they're dangerously close to stealing the MN Senate race
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:39 AM
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27. One of the issues that must be addressed sometime in the near future
is election fraud, with our new leadership that promises justice, those people that did the crime must now be made to do the time...we cannot ignore nor forget that crimes have been committed, to do that only invites the same criminals to once again enact the same crimes as is proof that this election year showed the same fingerprints were busy being left attempting to once again for the third time in a row destroy our democracy...we have no choice but to weed them all out and ensure they are forced to face justice for their treasonous actions...
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:57 AM
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30. I agree completely.
I want mandatory, hand-counted, paper-ballots for all Federal elections by 2010. That's what they've got in Canada, and it works just fine!

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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dccrossman Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:08 AM
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4. Kick the fucking electronic voting machines out
I agree. Wholeheartedly.

2006 was evidence enough.

Until enough people get pissed off enough that we can manage to overcome the 5% added back to red by the machines, so that we get a Democratic governor again, we'll probably be stuck with the damn machines.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:08 AM
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5. Two MILLION early GA votes not included in totals:
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 01:22 AM by Spider Jerusalem
Advance Votes Not Tallied In Fulton, Gwinnett Counties

Tuesday, November 4, 2008 – updated: 11:29 pm EST November 4, 2008
ATLANTA -- Fulton and Gwinnett Counties failed to include any advance votes in their election totals by 11 p.m. Tuesday night.

Officials at the Secretary of States office confirmed to WSB-TV Channel 2 that the votes were not being included in early returns.

Up to two million votes may be going uncounted.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/17894973/detail.html
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:13 AM
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10. No, I had not seen that. Thanks for the link.
If they count those votes and add them to the totals, I will be a lot more confident in the result. In fact, those votes will very likely change the outcome, imho.

We'll have to wait and see how this plays out.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:36 AM
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25. Kos link to this story and comments:
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:15 AM
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16. wow 2 million??? that explains alot
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:28 AM
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22. Thanks for that link!! Maybe there is still hope?
In the end, I am thrilled that Obama won but if we can get rid of Saxby too, that will be the luscious, creamy icing on the moist, delicious cake.

Okay, I just made myself really hungry... ;)
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:11 AM
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8. Sounds like Rob Georgia II. nt
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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:12 AM
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9. GA is the only state where the polls missed badly

and I mean badly. Not sure what's going on. One should consider all hypotheses.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:13 AM
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11. I agree - these totals are way off the mark, Politico refuses to call it
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 01:14 AM by TornadoTN
But it seems that the media down there is content on sitting on it. They are still saying "McCain wins, Saxby ahead".

Something doesn't smell right.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:14 AM
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12. I agree, there's something rotten in Georgia. n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:14 AM
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13. Georgia doesn't have the same suffering textile & manufacturing base as NC
If you just look at race, they're very close. If you look at more pertinent data, Georgia is suffering less than NC.
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happychatter Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:15 AM
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14. I don't doubt you one bit, Lilth... in Washington we're going all paper now
thank you for your hard work
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:15 AM
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15. Yeah, I thought I saw something wrong or suspicious with the percentages with the locals.
A Republican seemed to get a bigger percentage than made sense. But don't take my word for this because I'm not 100% sure it was even GA with all the states that were coming in.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:17 AM
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17. It was a righteously pissy day today. I was a runner for our GOTV team and had to battle
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 01:17 AM by nc4bo
rain on the roads and people tailgating me as I was trying to get my numbers back to the station and picking up food and dropping off food for our Houdinis and poll observers.

I was wet and miserable.
Umbrella use was futile.

But it was all worth every bit of the historic moment we witnessed tonight!!

But yea, I bet there was a ton of fishy business going on in Ga. today.

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:30 AM
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23. Sorry. I thought the weather was good up there.
I knew Virginia had rain. It was clear in GA, regardless, and that means turn-out here should have een even higher.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:20 AM
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19. Georgia and Alaska polling always overstates Democratic support
I've emphasized that on DU for 6 years. I have no idea why it isn't well known. It dates long before Diebold. It averages about 4% Many times I've mentioned my Partisan Adjustment Number (PAN) theory in specific states. The Georgia adjustment is the highest in the nation, 4.5 points toward the Republican.

The Georgia polling model obviously sucks. I'm not going to try to explain it. I win plenty of large bets by knowing it, including tonight. I had McCain at 1/2 odds to win Georgia, which was outright theft.
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Sheri Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:34 AM
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24. i'm truly curious. why? and why those two states, in particular?
:shrug:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:45 AM
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29. We had a Democratic governor from Reconstruction to 2002.
We had a Democratic Senate from Reconstruction to 2002. We had a Democratic House of Representatives from Reconstruction to 2004.

How can you say that your "PAN" pre-dates the Diebold machines that we got in 2002? Isn't it likely that your "PAN" is, instead, the direct result of the Diebold machines?

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:59 AM
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31. Absolutely fascinating!
I'd love to research that.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:21 AM
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20. This GA gal says no way Mccain took GA fair and square
I've seen the long long lines all last week. I've talked to plenty of people who are completely fed up with Republican policies and a worsening economy. Not only that but GA lost 28,500 jobs in September alone. Something stinks.
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Budgies Revenge Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:21 AM
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21. are you frickin *&!^(*(%^%$ kidding me!
what in the hell is going on here?! Why are we not hearing more about this! I thought early votes were supposed to be added in at the same time the election day votes were counted!!!!!!!AAAAARRRRGGGGG!
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:39 AM
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26. I hate to say it- but I agree with this- Atlanta looks real funny
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:40 AM
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28. Chamblis is down to 5% per CNN.
When those "extra" votes get counted it'll be a runoff, if not a victory for Martin.
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 02:46 AM
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32. I heard that an Atlanta station reported tat the Atlanta counties haven't counted early votes yet ?!
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BCAtlanta Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 06:58 AM
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33. I didn't get to vote...
Got up this morning to the good news. That's great and all, but I'd really like my vote to have been counted. I voted early in Dekalb county, ya see.

I'm happy about President Obama but I wish I was in a state where they didn't try to steal my vote so much.
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