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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:33 PM
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Ed Rendell's Concern Trolling about PA - Was that a Set-Up?
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 12:41 PM by ROh70
Remember how Ed Rendell was going on and on about how he was worried about PA, even though Obama was up double-digits in the polls? I thought he and Maddow were just being ultra concern-trolly and annoying.

But, now, I wonder - was it all a set-up to make McCain throw away time and resources in the wingnut quagmire that is Pennsylvania?

Even Joe Scarborough was going on about how the republicans were stupid for thinking they had a chance in PA.

I hope someone in the MSM asks Rendell whether he was actually concerned about PA or not.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:34 PM
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1. Pretty sweet, huh?
:evilgrin:
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:35 PM
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2. didn't he admit that he was just trying to rally the voters?
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:35 PM
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5. Was he interviewed after the election? Link?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:45 PM
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20. before
believe it was on a radio show
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:35 PM
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3. If So, He'd Never Admit It
I think Maddow was probably just very concerned, but she wouldn't admit otherwise either.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:35 PM
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4. Yeah, he faked McCain out. He did a great job. Heh. n/t
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:42 PM
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18. He was so convincing, though. He seemed like he was REALLY CONCERNED. Lol.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:35 PM
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6. Damn right, we fell for it too. It was the smartest thing, EVER.
Convince everyone, even your supporters, that PA is in danger.

Then McCain trys and pours resources into a state you know you'll win, and suddenly Obama's PA team had to fight to keep the state blue out of fear it would go for McCain while Obama traveled the country in other states.
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:37 PM
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8. Right. The dumb-ass MSM bought it hook, line, and sinker. The same dumb-ass MSM
that thought there were millions of PUMAs lurking out in the hinterland.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:37 PM
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7. I think it was honest, I know a lot of people who have been busting their asses in PA lately
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:38 PM
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10. The guy is too saavy to be so off about his state. It had to be intentional.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:07 PM
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26. Performance in Western PA was lower than it should have been. It looks like we won based on the...
swing voters out East while losing even more of our traditional base. Not exactly an easily predictable situation.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:42 PM
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17. I saw parts of my neighborhood I had never seen before!
and my legs were pretty tired, too.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:04 PM
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25. My mom did a lot of phone banking.
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 01:05 PM by JVS
You know where I'm from. She said things were generally going well, but that usually when she saw an Italian last name on the screen there was a lot of antipathy toward Obama. The Italians were the main group in our neighborhood before black people started to move in and there seems to be tension between the groups. Also, I am discouraged by the W PA Democratic zone being reduced to Allegheny county alone. It seems that in the wake of deindustrialization we are becoming hillbillies. Hillbillies descended from Eastern and Southern Europe, but hillbillies nonetheless.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:22 PM
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29. one time a guy at the Long John Silvers counter (I was out that way for work)
On Rodi lectured me about how bad Clinton was. This was when I was trying to buy food. :eyes:


Turns out he was the head of the Reps out there... I just countered every thing he said - they hate that! :rofl:



Needless to say I haven't been back since.
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Aptastik Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:37 PM
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9. I was thinking that too
With the "leak" of the internal polling numbers as well. But I just can't believe McCain would take that strategy without his own internal polling showing a tightening as well.
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:39 PM
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14. Remember, this is the same McCain that thought Palin would bring in millions of Hillary supporters.
They were that dumb. I read that they knew the polling said they had no shot in PA, but they simply refused to believe that Obama was up so big in the Philly suburbs, where Bush won big in 2004.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:38 PM
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11. Mr. Rendell obviously knows how to play hardball/bareknuckle...
politics. If he did in fact do what he did to get McCain to spend more time on a lost cause,
then he did a great favor for Obama, the Democratic Party, and the World.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:38 PM
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12. They don't call him Fast Eddie for nothing...I think that they brought McSame to PA
to waste time and resources while Obama was running around Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico, Indiana, North Carolina, Colorado, Ohio, and Florida to flip these states and steal McCain his red states.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:39 PM
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13. Heh, heh. Ole Briar Patch Ed!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:40 PM
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15. Yep! Classic SIKE! Classic fake-out! Meant to drive up turnout.
Love ya, Ed Rendell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:41 PM
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16. I think no politician says anything without SOME reason... ;)

It all worked out. I was surprised that he said that, (maybe he wanted to get folks fired up) and I was surprised by Murtha's comments. But who knows? It all worked out ok!
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:42 PM
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19. Good LORD, has no one else read Uncle Remus?
"Please don't throw me in de briar patch!"

same for Rachel...
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:45 PM
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21. Rachel was and is a true concern "troll." And I say that with great affection.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:09 PM
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28. See #13 above. ;)
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:51 PM
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22. I won't credit Rendell with being that devious
I'm from PA. Look how he backed the wrong candidate in the primaries. Not knocking Hillary - she ran a helluva campaign in PA, but Bob Casey was a lot smarter to back Obama. I thought Rendell didn't help us as head of the DNC during Gore Florida recount.

This year he was way to mouthy about PA being racist, Obama outperformed Kerry even in counties in PA that Obama lost for the most part. And I'm glad Obama refused to play Rendell's game of street money. It damn past time that piece of corruption is put to rest in PA. I'd like to see the big city corruption and favors of some old school Dems like Rendell die out in Pennsylvania and have Democrats stand on honest, upstanding politics.

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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:54 PM
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23. If Rendell REALLY worried for the Dem Party future, he would do something about the voting machines.

With 50 counties still on paperless Direct Record Electronic voting machines, PA simply HAS to have a double-digit lead to overcome potential loss of votes and stealing.

I am sick of Democrats fighting other Democrats on this. Rendell spent taxpayer dollars eight days ago to vigorously fight a citizen lawsuit just to get a small increase in EMERGENCY paper ballots. He lost, but many areas of the state apparently ignored the judge's order to provide paper ballots when machines broke yesterday.

We MUST get these problems with our voting systems corrected, or they will come back to bite us big time sooner or later. 2010 is not that far away.

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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:57 PM
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24. I think PA needs to FIRE all election officials and hire
competent people, get rid of machines, do only paper ballots that get COUNTED by machines, no more stupidity in PA from now on!
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:07 PM
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27. If we didn't have to fight Rendell on this all the time, that could happen.

Rendell is on record time and time again saying that there is no problem with the machines. It's maddening.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:23 PM
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30. Yep. It was actually genius and he fooled me into thinking he was an ass.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:24 PM
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31. it was a head fake and it worked really well.
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