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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:45 PM Original message |
Some of us weren't crazy about Hillary Clinton BEFORE the primaries. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. I just don't want to start poaching Democrats out of The Senate. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. ... |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. We may need Olympia Snowe somewhere down the road. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Hillary should be Seante leader |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Seance leader? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That's Nancy Reagan's job |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. senate |
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Ozma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #22 |
72. Some might think that would be cool, but it ignores |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. No flaming from me. I totally agree with your post. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Really? |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. LOL, yeah. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Meh. The OP was quite rational. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree with everything you wrote. My esteem has also |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Totally agree. It might not make sense to me, but it makes sense to him. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. You're assuming she would take it |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Not really. I'm hoping her interests lie elsewhere. We shall see. nt |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I agree, I think she can do far more in the Senate, but, hey, it's her call |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I've heard reports... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Who'd you hear those from, Andrea Mitchell who has a lot invested |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. No, even worse... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:18 PM Original message |
I have a question... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
29. Can't help there. |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. I wasn't crazy about Hillary before the primaries, but grew to respect her greatly during them. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. I learned to like both Obama and Clinton a LOT more during the primaries. nt |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
10. You're stuck in primary mode. Let the primaries go. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. . |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. Well said. |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hillary was my original pick for president |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'll admit I also wasn't that crazy about her before the primaries |
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vanderBeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. No flames from me |
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Bethany Rockafella (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
18. "Some of us weren't crazy about Hillary Clinton BEFORE the primaries." |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Skepticism does not equal "hatred". |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Good point!!! |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
75. yup, this kind of idiot post is pretty characteristic |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #75 |
113. I was going to post a "OMG you are a Hillary Hater!" post in jest ... |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
25. Having the ability to be diplomatic is key here |
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globalvillage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Exactly. |
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sunnybrook (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
110. What about working in areas that she has been passionate about |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
28. No flames here. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Grovelbot, just get over the primaries already! |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
33. No flaming this post or Hillary. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. Hillary ended it well, but she didn't need to |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Did it ever occur to you that half of the voters wanted Hillary and not Obama? |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #47 |
71. She hurt the GE candidate bigtime - to benefit HERSELF. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
102. Yup, she sure did hurtObama big time in the GE -- whew! What a nailbiter! |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #36 |
56. Her doing "McCain's dirty work" |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
73. Helping after they hurt - nice rationalization. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
39. Exactly! It was her DLC policies and allegiances that turned me off. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Well, since most of those same people are in his transition team, |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #48 |
68. He doesn't, and that's why he wasn't my first choice. Kucinich was... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
40. All I can say is... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. Why are we talking about HRC |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #41 |
85. That's a fair point. |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
42. That's nice. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
43. Yes, it's pretty common knowledge that the RW media successfully trashed Hillary and Bill. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
115. The RW didn't make up the comments both of them uttered during the primary. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
44. Hey, some of us weren't crazy about Obama during the primaries. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Here at DU, it's customary to unify behind the nominee. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. If someone can open a thread stating that their dislike for Hillary goes back to the primary, |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. You failed to understand the essence of the OP. The OP discusses disliking HRC before the primaries |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yeah, but it fails to acknowledge where that disrespect comes from. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Thank you!! |
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marimour (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:33 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. So if someone didn't like Hillary b4 the primaries then they are being irrational? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:06 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. People are the same on both sides. |
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marimour (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. what does that matter? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #59 |
67. It has nothing to do with victimization, merely a call for rational civility. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #53 |
69. It assumes that we don't care about her actual policies or her record. It also presumes that we are |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #51 |
89. No, that is incorrect |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
91. I purposely did not list the reasons I am leery of the Clintons. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #44 |
86. So, if Hillary had been elected and was about to appoint Obama to a cabinet position... |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
54. Here is my issue with the Hillary bashing from an Obama primary and GE team leader |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:40 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Thank you for your posts. It's one thing to criticize Hillary on policy, it's another to engage in |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #54 |
77. Please explain to me how I "pissed" on Hillary... |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #77 |
117. It was a general statement on the reaction |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Gotcha. |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #54 |
78. And I would suggest |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Thank you! |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I have been so flamed by the Clinton loyalists |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
103. Excellent post -- your friend and I feel the same |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
55. LOTS of people arent too crazy about Hillary .... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
70. Many of them were right wing zealots, but many of them are truly liberals like me who disagree |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Correct |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
97. I take issue with being identified as a 'Zealot' |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. If you're not a zealot, then my post was not directed as you, but there seems to be a lot of |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. We all know there are opinions that are completely against the Democratic party |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #70 |
96. DU is a PRO Democratic party forum |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
58. I wasn't crazy about her before the primaries, and livid with her during them. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:14 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Damn that was well spoken ..... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:35 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Thanks! My best insights into Obama come from reading The Audacity of Hope. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #58 |
80. You do realize that appointing Hillary as SOS takes her out of domestic politics? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Are you trying to be funny? That's clearly in the "no duh" department. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Not at all. And I read your post before you edited, so I'll try to respond to it. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Of course the Secretary of State handles foreign, not domestic, issues. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. It wasn't intended to be. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Obama is stronger than you give him credit for being. |
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mwei924 (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
61. I liked her a lot before the primary but I just liked Obama more. |
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rogerballard (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
62. No matter what, I appreciate the fact that Bill and Hillary are Democrats... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:44 AM Response to Original message |
65. Kicked and recommended! |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
95. * |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
66. Never had a problem with the Jr. Senator from New York: some of her racist scumbag sycophants |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
74. Ditto....particularly about how my opinion of Hillary has become more favorable. n/t |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
79. I have learned to trust |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
84. im a little tired of seeing |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
88. I suppose with Clinton we would have gotten back Madeline Albright & Warren Christopher too |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
93. Seems to me that there is so much to be done second guessing is probably a bad plan. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
98. thank you! |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
99. But many learned to like and respect her during it |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
100. Really? I hadn't noticed. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
101. Except many of those most concerned during the Primaries never criticized Senator Clinton before |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. There was a strong heaping of scorn even before then as this thread from June of 2007 can attest |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #111 |
120. Hmmmmm |
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Brazenly Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
106. What you feel about her is irrelevant. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. That's a good point. |
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Brazenly Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. I think the Clinton brand IS that much more popular overseas, but |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. I actually went to a dinner party tonight.... |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #112 |
116. During the primaries there was a fantasy poll in Canada and both Obama and Hillary came ahead of all |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
109. 8 years of bombing and sanctioning Iraq kinda sewed the one up for me. |
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ksimons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
114. even my republican mom, who hated hillary, is defending her now |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
118. I agree. |
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