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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:14 PM Original message |
Here is why I dont care for token success, whether it be women or gays or people of color |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Maybe they will find a gay Clarence Thomas |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. thats unlikely since obama isnt bush sr. |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Kinda like saying now that we have a black president, we're sooo over racism in this country. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. as a country over the last decade or two we have moved from racism to classism |
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Renegade08 (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. No, that's not true. Great disparities still exist based on race and racism. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. no one said that there aren't disparities but the disparities are moving more |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Yes, racism is officially over, you did not get the memo. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. did i say that? i said the oppression is moving more w.in economic class |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. So a homeless advocate would be out of the running? Tokenism? Again? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. why would a homeless advocate be out of the running? |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. While I support affirmative action and other efforts to even the playing field... |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. Does that apply as well to the office of President? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. yes, while i am sure the country feels better that it can now get past color |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. No one is saying it would |
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Democrats_win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. Diversity can benefit a business or a government. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. What if a gay person has equal qualifications to a straight person? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. ofcourse, my point is just that it may not end up mattering to the group |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Tokenism is different from diversity |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. But it's only ONE person, so if like an AA ran for president and won...oh... |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:27 PM Original message |
its hardly tokenism when an african american candidate wins overwhelminingly in a national election |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
39. Oh I get it. It's all bout numbers for you. I wonder if Rosa Parks thought numbers. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. yes, because i do not necessarily believe that appointing one gay cabinet minister changes |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. How sad. Really. Kind of for the want of a nail. One person does make a difference. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
14. Never underestimate the power of role models and symbols |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. I have nothing to say but kick and recommend. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
17. What I would like to be assured of |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. absolutely and i should have made this CLEAR in my op. which i did not. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. When is success merely a token? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. well barney frank and obama are slight different in this regard, largely because they were elected |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
19. rec 5 |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. You're right |
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mrbarber (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
21. Crazy idea..... |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Oh please, that couldn't possibly be the reason. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. absolutely. and i should have been clearer in my op about this |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. There is a fair amount of tripe involved in the idea of tokenism being a block on progress |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. how many assumptions before you are wrong? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Aw hell. You beat me to it. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
28. The Man certainly did a good job on you... |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. yup. nt |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
31. So it's the numbers. I get it. Good thinking! As another gay, speak for yourself. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. i did. did i say this was the opinion of all gay people? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Your comfy big gay chair. Sit there and watch, |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. does that sentence even make sense to you? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Your sickening premise. Correct me if I am wrong. |
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