So after - Hillary Clinton will be there to answer the 3 a.m phone call is repeated a thousand times

[Skwmom]

(I've been reading it and just heard another reference on Morning Joe), how will it impact the confidence that the American people have in President Obama?

We've already heard President Clinton say that Obama called him and Hillary and said tell me what to do. We are hearing Clinton promoted as the MOST QUALIFIED person around.

Would someone explain to me how this is good for an Obama administration? I just don't get it.

[salguine]

1. As much as I hate to say it,

the double blow of No Punishment For Lieberman and the prospect of having The Clintons back has made all the happiness of November 5 disappear like air out of a balloon.

[RichGirl]

8. Why....

Because you thought that Obama would do EXACTLY what you want and everything you want...and why??? Oh because you are just so much smarter than he is, you know Lieberman and the Clinton's much better than he does, you understand goverment better than he does. Wow...you should run for office.

[salguine]

22. Actually, what you're saying and what I'm thinking aren't even remotely similar.

[niceypoo]

2. Arent you over the primaries yet?

the rest of the country forgot about that crap six months ago

[Skwmom]

5. No worry, they are being reminded about the 3 a.m. now and if

she become SOS, you can bet it won't go away.

Many (including myself) were elated by the election of Obama and of FINALLY turning the page on Bush and the Clintons.

[RichGirl]

9. And 18 million of us wanted Clinton to be president...and when that wasn't going to happen...

...we gave our support to Obama and helped him get elected. Get over the Bush/Clinton thing already. This idea is totally without merit. Hillary Clinton happens to be an extremely intelligent, experienced, knowledgable person and we need people like her in our government. Get out of your bubble and realize that we are in a situation where we need the support of he whole world. The whole world loves, admires, respects and trusts the Clintons. That is invaluable. To sacrifice that because...geez...we don't want another Clinton in power is ridiculous and baseless.

[yourguide]

11. and 67 million of us wanted obama to be president. n/t

[RichGirl]

13. And he will be and I'm very happy about that.

I will also be happy if he chooses Clinton to be SOS because it is a very smart choice and very brave of him to make.

[yourguide]

15. And there are some dems

who dont think it's a smart choice...it's that simple and there should be room for both opinions.

[Evergreen Emerald]

10. so what? Because stupid people take things out of context to criticize

we should be fretting? Stupid people say stupid things all the time...

[BzaDem]

24. You wanted to turn the page on the Clintons, and you will be dissapointed.

Because most people in the Democratic party don't agree with you. That's how it works. Hillary Clinton has an 80% approval rating among Democrats. Just because she isn't our nominee doesn't mean that most people wanted to end any involvement from the only two term Democratic president since FDR, or his amazingly smart and experienced wife.

[onehandle]

3. Obama has said that he is looking for the smartest people and no yes men.

Don't you trust Obama's judgement?

[Skwmom]

4. And how is Hillary one of the smartest people?

I've heard that meme repeated again and again but where are the examples of her brilliance? Didn't she even fail the bar exam?

[RichGirl]

12. Where are the examples of the drama...and baggage????

The examples of her brilliance is in her accomplishments.

[karynnj]

17. Could you please list HRC's Senate and foreign policy accomplishments?

Her resume was HYPED by a media that has drooled over a HRC Presidency since 1992. Every other person whose name was floated had greater foreign policy experience. She has met many world leaders and the Clintons are well respected worldwide - but this will make it hard for OBAMA to be seen internationally as his own man.

I think that this has been a masterful Clinton strategy to get what they wanted as the primaries were ending - and they spoke of essentially a co-Presidency - because they were "tied". (In fact percentagewise - on DELEGATES - rather than the manufactored, intellectually dishonest popular vote, Gore and Kerry were closer to Bush than HRC was to Obama. She lost.) They made this a case of rejecting or not rejecting HRC - rather than selecting her or not. The implicit threat - rejecting her will play havoc with the beginning of his Presidency.

[Motown_Johnny]

6. She doesn't get to answer that phone call. She gets to do what the President tells her to do

It is good for the Obama Administration because:


the Clintons already have good will built up in many countries, this taps into that good will for him (and us)

It places Hillary directly under him instead of being in a separate and co-equal branch of government where she can work toward 2016 by second guessing every decision he makes (not that she would do that, it is pure speculation)

[Skwmom]

18. Sorry, I disagree.

1. He already has plenty of good will going for him.

2. So what if she tried to second guess every decision. He could write it off as sour grapes. By appointing her SOS, it's not so easy. In addition, by elevating her to SOS and letting her be sold as such an OUTSTANDINGLY QUALIFIED person, he is letting people fuel the meme that maybe he really wasn't qualified to take the 3 a.m. call. And maybe he really is too green to do a good job as President.

He is providing the Clintons a potential springboard for a 2012 challenge. Because the worse the economy becomes, the better it is for the Clintons.

Do you really think the Clintons will wait around for 2012 if they think they can take it away from him in 2012? Look how they are treating Richardson. These are people who don't forget and who get even. Obama will not be able to charm them. I read that Bill Clinton brought out the worst in Hillary. Do you think he's going to be telling her what a great job Obama is doing? No, he is going to be fueling division b/c he is still very angry.

[RichGirl]

7. First....

Stop watching Morning Joe and assuming everybody else does. Second...start to see that the media, at least cable news, is entertainment. They look for drama to increase ratings. The drama surrounding the Clinton's is media created. One week it's Palin, the next Clinton.....they don't care. To create further drama, they rehash the primaries.

We elected a very intelligent, knowledgeable, caring man with great judgement. Why are so many allowing the media to cause them to question that judgement. Personally, I think it's laughable that anyone on ths board thinks that they know the Clinton's better than Obama does. Or that their judgement in who should be SOS is better than Obama's. Where does their knowledge come from....cable news and the internet...LOL!!!

The simple fact that the media doesn't dwell on, because it's boring, is that Obama believes that Hillary is the best person for the job. One of those reasons is probably because the Clintons are loved, admired and respected all over the world. When dealing with other countries, then being trusted is key. The Clintons are trusted.

[sufrommich]

14. Is there a quote that Bill Clinton said Obama called him

and asked him what to do? I've never heard that.
Why would Hillary Clinton be answering the 3:00 am phone call,even if she were SOS? That doesn't even make sense.

[acmavm]

16. You DON'T HAVE TO MAKE sense when referring to HRC

You just have to be bitter, nasty, and petty.

Time to get over it.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

19. May be a form of OCD? Same posters over and over. n/t

[Skwmom]

21. He said it when he was on the campaign trail with Obama.

FL, I believe. He said that he was going to say something that wasn't cleared by the Obama campaign (letting us know that they had to approve everything he said). Then he said when the financial crisis hit that Obama called him and Hillary (and I think Buffet) and said tell me what to do. He tried to make it okay by saying that Obama didn't ask about the political implications or something like that but if that was the case he could have said it in a much better way then saying that Obama said to him and Hillary, tell me what to do (and Clinton is well aware of that).

He could have said something like in calling around for advice on the financial crisis, Obama said "give me your opinion without consideration of the political implications." But that would have defeated the purpose.

As far as the 3 a.m. call goes that has been repeated in print and on cable news. It's a great way of reminding people that, hey maybe Obama really isn't up to the job.

[Maven]

20. YOU ARE OBSESSED

[cliffordu]

23. Cause you don't want to get it.