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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:26 PM
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Face it, there are only three types of Democrats with "administrative" experience

And cabinet positions are essentially administrative - you have to be able to manage a fairly large staff of people.


1. Democratic governors or former governors (Richardson, Vilsack, Rendell, etc.)
2. Democrats who have successfully run businesses (Corzine, etc.)
3. Democrats who previously worked in presidential administrations (All the "Clinton folks")


So.... It's damn near impossible, unless we raid the governors mansions all across the country, for Obama to hire someone with appropriate administrative experience that does NOT have ties to the Clinton Administration.


Hell... even among the governors, a lot of them have ties to the Clinton Administration. It lasted 8 years, and it is the only recent time that Democrats were able to gain the appropriate experience without running a state.


There is practically not a name Obama could put out there that doesn't have some tie to the Clinton Administration, even if it is tangental.


So quit with all the belly-aching about "oh noes! Not another Clintonista!"

By necessity, most of the people Obama considers will have some previous tie to the Clinton Administration.


Ignore the stupid "where's the change we were promised!?!?!?!" posts. The change we voted for was a change away from the Bush administration and a government run by neocons .... not a change away from anyone who has worked in Washington for the past 16 years.

The Clinton Administration is not something that we're running away from or that we voted against... we voted against the Bush era, not the Clinton era.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:28 PM
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1. You forgot one.
Democrats who were former NATO Allied Supreme commanders (there's only one. LOL).

But Wes Clark had administrative experience running that organization. It's run similarly to a governorship with the added perks of providing experience in foreign policy and diplomacy.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:40 PM
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4. Right you are My Friend
I would not need to go out on a limb to compare General Clark's NATO duty to being much more of an "administative experience" then most of our governors.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:28 PM
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2. Uh-oh, you're making sense!!
:) Keep up the good work. K&R
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:50 PM
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9. Well considering what passes for sense in the political world, you might be right.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:39 PM
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3. The federal agencies have counterparts in state government
I think you have over-looked a pool of prospective candidates in those positions.

Some of these administrators are tackling relevant problems to those that need to be dealt with by the federal gov't.

These people are also aware of the ways in which federal management can be changed to help the states do their jobs better.

I would have thought some of those folks would be tapped.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:42 PM
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5. Clinton was the last Democratic President. And was President for 8 yrs. So unless you want 20yr olds
taking positions that require govt experience. You're going to have to hire people who worked for Clinton
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:53 PM
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10. 20 years olds? Oh no, I had no idea that there was no brilliant, honest, qualified,
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 01:53 PM by Skwmom
individuals over 20 available to serve an Obama administration. Well, I guess that leaves Warren Buffet out of the running..........
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:55 PM
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11. Yeah... guys like Warren Buffet are always looking to take 99% pay cuts in exchange for harder work.

:eyes:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:49 PM
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6. Richardson is "Clinton folk".....Ambassador to UN and Secretary of Energy!! n/t
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:49 PM
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7. Does Obama have administative experience?
The only reason I have hope for Obama is that he was an early supporter of Howard Dean for president, his long relationship with Rev. Wright, and Michelle. I don't like what I have seen since the Dem convention.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:49 PM
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8. If all you use is old retreads, when does the new blood get a chance?
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 01:50 PM by Skwmom
All I hear is how great the Clinton administration was but there were many in the Clinton Administration who had NEVER served in Washington. Now all of a sudden we can't have a Democratic executive branch unless it's made up of a bunch of retreads that have learned to play the corporate game and in the case of Summers (if he's appointed) was a royal **** up the first time around.

The Clinton administration gave us NAFTA (loss of American Jobs), deregulation (the great financial collapse), media consolidation (the loss of the fourth estate)..... With that kind of record, explain to me why we want to use their retreads?

This whole necessity argument is ridiculous.


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