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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:27 PM Original message |
Left Out: Would it kill Obama to have an actual progressive or two in his cabinet? |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm disappointed, but not surprised. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. Folks here that thought he was a progressive were projecting on him what they wanted to see. nt |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. got too wrapped up |
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appal_jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
66. NOT relevant |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
72. I recall Obama talking about the old business as usual Washington crowd during the primary when... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
81. Then there are the folks who know that progressivism is desperately needed... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. I agree. nt |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. He just announced one, I heard. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #88 |
103. Yes. I have high hopes. n/t |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. Are there any actual progressives who are qualified for the positions? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. You want easy confirmations that are acceptable to right-wing Republicans? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. No, |
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Omnibus (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Progressives aren't qualified? |
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thenam (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
60. Yep :-/ |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. LOL |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. You want long and divisive confirmation hearings? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
78. What I hear you saying is that once again the Dem's aren't going to do the right thing because they |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Welcome to the Website of the Congressional Progressive Caucus! - 72 reps available! |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Nope, nobody qualified there! Let's try out Sam Nunn and the Cheney guy for CIA instead! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Weren't Waxman and Wexler just appointed? |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Not appointed... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Yeah I know but I thought they'd been called on by Obama... |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. I'm afraid Stephanie Tubbs Jones won't be able to help. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. What about Howard Dean?? Although there are bruised egos |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
104. Heh. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Maybe Bernie Sanders will be Secretary of Labor? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. That would be a good choice or better yet how about someone .... |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. Amazing that the "stupid" progressives have been SO RIGHT about the critical issues of our day , |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
73. Thanks for saying that. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. Who are the people and how are they better qualified than those chosen? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Harriet Miers was a centrist. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I thought that everyone rejected her because she was a crony. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Nope. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
8. Define Progressive |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. How about waiting until the cabinet is filled? Jumping the gun like the womens groups |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. Like who? Howard Dean? nt |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. Way better choice for the HHS post than Daschle |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
58. Tom Daschle may not be a doctor.. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
70. I don't want anyone who was just lobbying FOR the health care industry in charge of HHS. Period. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
94. whatever...sounds like you are going to be pissed off... |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. I hope he stays more centrist myself |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Yeah don't want those far lefites who have been right about EVERYTHING to dictate policy. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Only about 20% of the American people consider themselves |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Nice try with the liberals will take your gun away meme |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Go ahead and 2010 will be a replay of 1994 |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Liberals don't want to take your guns either. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I have always heard in either party candidates |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
108. So what you're saying is |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Liberals don't want to take your guns! What are all these |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. And yet 60% or so hold a majority of liberal positions |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
106. So are you implying |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
63. I can't believe it's already starting to crystallize... |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Actually had Kucinich not bowed out beforehand |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Perhaps we are the Democrat's version... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Be todays standards Nixon and Haldeman would be considered centrists .... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
76. Might want to rethink your choice of avatars then. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
84. The EXACT opposite is true |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
89. We're talking about liberals, not Stalinists and Maoists. |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
100. Define "far lefties", if you don't mind. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. Progressive is in the eye of the beholder nt |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. No, it's a philosophy. .... 'Progressive's seek to give voice to the needs |
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Sirveri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. The only really EXPERIENCED leftist staffers are Clinton era. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Experience isn't just people whom already served under Clinton. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
91. Uh, none of the appointees from the clinton era are even CLOSE to leftist. |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm hoping that the cabinet appointees will be the fascilitators for |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
26. I'm not sure who gets to define "actual progressive?" |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
27. THANK YOU! |
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latebloomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Only problem is |
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riverwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
32. Samantha Power |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
39. Obama doesn't want to appoint partisans |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. "ruling from the center" is an old nonsense cliche |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. The middle 50% of Americans |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Well the majority of Americans do hold progressive values |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. You nailed it! Exactly! |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
97. Because centrists is code for Corporatists. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
95. oh really? |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. That is utter hogwash. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. If the majority of Americans agree with a progressive agenda |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
96. WTF? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #39 |
64. Yeah. And JFK would've got us out of Vietnam in his SECOND term. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
93. who would that be? |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
42. Obama is not a Progressive and |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
68. Are you daft? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
92. FISA. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
43. How is it that people know.. |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. My only hope is that HE will be the progressive |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
56. Thank goodness someone has said it. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
57. It Could. Would you progressives want to be responsible for that? |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
59. Yes, yes it would kill him |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Leave It Up To Hillary Clinton |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Lord you make me tired |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 06:30 AM Response to Reply #62 |
102. CS, people on DU are already tearing down Obama |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Leave it to you |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
86. Fuck you and go read more history of the 90s. nt |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
65. What do you mean? Clinton was once the Most Liberal Senator |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
71. Like who? Is there someone emminently qualified for something, who was passed over |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
74. The big post for me is Secretary of the Interior. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
77. I still think creating a Dept of Peace with Kucinich at the helm would be fabulous. |
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Liberal Progressive (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
80. Reading one more whiny article about it might kill me. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
82. apparently so |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
83. DLC = Failure Why can't Obama see this? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #83 |
98. Some Of The Main Proponents of Deregulation Will Have Top Gov't Posts |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Deregulation caused this mess |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
107. He won't govern DLC'ish, but he will use them to get the job done. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
87. Why does Obama have his own opinion about who he should appoint?! |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
90. No, only incompetence is rewarded. |
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happychatter (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
101. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
105. Apparently, you're definition of a progressive is different than mine. |
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