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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:30 PM Original message |
Three reasons the "Wellstone Left" deserves a seat at the White House Policy Table. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's a little strange to hear Rahm and others welcome Republics while they snub us. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I actually like Rahm out of the house and working for Obama. But we still need a seat at the table. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I agreed with that to a degree for about a week. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Access is power. Which is why we need a seat at the table. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Pretty disgusting really - but we'll see what things look like in a couple more weeks... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. You're right. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. If he does it he will be brilliant. The RW will grouse, the more moderate Dems |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
63. Give us a place at the table, and it's up to us to use that place productively. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. the attitude negates your post |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. But trumpeting Republicans' role in the administration is not divisive. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Are you referring to Obama trumpeting Republican roles? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Not especially. Mostly Rahm and some other guy made a point to tell the press |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Obama has made a point to do that as well |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Is this by way of avoiding the question? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. no, it's a reassertion of Obama's campaign. Did you not notice that over the last 18 months? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Obama did not run on giving power to Republicans. n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. I didn't say he did. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
66. But he never said he would distance his base in favor of Republicans |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #66 |
79. his "base?" |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
65. It is an apt term to describe those who do not vote WITH the republicans... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. Seems pretty unlikely that the left will be excluded. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. i agree somewhat, , especially Obama has made some very good lower profile |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. My hope |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Again, I generally concur with your reasoning. . |
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HopeFor2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Yes, that reasoning is sound. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
69. Hopefully he name liberals to SCOTUS |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. You do realize that you have a seat at the table already? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That's debateable and the OP was referring, I believe, to the staffing of the incoming admin. |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. He's not Wellstone-left, who are you trying to kid? nt |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. Obama needs somebody who has endorsed single payer or who has long advocated for |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Daschle has long been an advocate of universal healthcare.... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. When you say "universal" what do you mean? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
16. Who could all "progressives" possibly ever agree on? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Other progressives. The idea that somehow we are a disorganized rabble |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I AGREE with YOU, sfexpat2000 !!!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Uh oh! Now, you're REALLY in trouble. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. yeah? here's a sample from a current thread at DU |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. 3 people on DU represents a whole group?!? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. of course not, but there sure seems to be an avoidance by someone in this thread to name names |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
64. Red herring, aka, waste of time. Everyone seldom or never agrees |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. well, since the thread is about "progressives," surely someone can throw some names out? |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Wesley K. Clark |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #29 |
77. The plural of anecdote is not data |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. ha ha. Right. Since no one here has any data forthcoming... |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. We can agree certainly on what Progressive Ideas would be welcome in each post |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. He should go far left and bring on a Socialist |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
25. K & R |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
27. I agree with you. Do you have any specific recommendations? nm |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I know Gore has said he doesn't want it, but he would fit the requirement very well. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Gore is "progressive?" How so? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Endorsed single payer in 2002. Opposed the stupid War. Called for accountability. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. so, those are the three criteria? Are you sure all of you can agree on that and... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Why not run a poll and find out? you sound like you don't want people on the left of you to |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. on the contrary.. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:47 PM Original message |
I disagree that they will complain about it anymore than you, the right, or the |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
43. who have I, the right, or the center complained about? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. The left. Look back a post or two. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. No, we're discussing Obama's cabinet appointments and such |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
70. He hates progressives and liberals with a passion |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 06:06 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. I hate illogical and factually challenged people - you two are doing an admirable job.. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #70 |
82. Self parody nails it. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. typical hit and run post - irrelevant as always |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I'm not saying Obama "should" appoint anyone. I'm not bothered by his picks so far. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. That's my point!! |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
34. What - no "Hillary is the Devil" threads here? |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Hmmmmm, I Was Wondering That Too |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'm looking at it this way |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. 4th reason why The Left deserves a seat at the table: |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. True, but I would see that as part of #3. The left has pragmatic solutions to problems. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
61. AMEN ! |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
51. K and R |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
53. Absolutely! |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
55. 4. Because they're the only ones who have been right in the past? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. That's why Wellstone had to die. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I agree. |
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carpe diem (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. I think you may have answered the questions a lot on the left |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
58. The Late George Carlin was spot on! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
59. I wish it were true. But the fact is, regardless how much effort the progressives gave to get Obama |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. "We will have to be happy with what we get." |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Liberals are a MAJORITY in America. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. People may poll as progressives but apparently don't vote progressive. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Low Information Voters |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Yes They Are! Unfortunately - The PR campaign has them thinking those Ideas are "Centrist" |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. Watch "Larry the Cableguy Christmas Special" and then tell me that. nm |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
73. I'm disappointed that we have been snubbed so far. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Thank you for posting this. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-01-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
78. The Dem party is only going to get bigger so it will become a bigger tent |
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