Chambliss victoy proves two things.

[BlueStater]

Life isn't always fair and bad people win sometimes.

[Drunken Irishman]

1. And Georgia sucks.

[Peregrine Took]

7. Amen. Knuckle dragger's anonymous.

[Athens30603]

32. Really? n/t

[Maru Kitteh]

42. Thank God Obama is better than you.

And your pantymates.

[lynne]

45. Should Jimmy Carter check his knuckles for abrasions?

Your broad brush painted him, too.

[RebelOne]

49. Not really. There are a few of us here that are not knuckle draggers. n/t

[The Traveler]

15. And I thought we were friends

Ya farkin' boozed up Mick ... why, I bet you're the one that's been sneakin' down here and takin' me Jameson's ... :P Lower than a dog ye are, but at least decent taste in whiskey.

Trav

[Drunken Irishman]

28. Hey, I live in a sucky state too, so I feel ya'.

In fact, my state might suck more than yours.

[The Traveler]

40. It might

At least we have lots of nice swamp here. :)

Used to go climbing in Utah fairly frequently. You have to admit ... there is some stunning scenery out there. But after a couple of weeks I find myself longing for the dense foliage of my home state.

Still, living here has its really sucky moments.

Trav

[Athens30603]

31. wrong. I live here. n/t

[Dawgs]

56. Bullshit. It just proves that a lot of stupid fucking republicans live here.

55%(R) to 45%(D) is not much worse than blue state like Pennsylvania.

Look at it this way. Out of a hundred people in Georgia (according to Nov. 5 election), 47 are Dems and 52 are Republicans. In Pennsylvania, 44 are Republicans and 56 are Democrats.

Or, in Pennsylvania, there are 9 more Democrats per 100 people than in Georgia.

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There is a lot of red in both states.

[Sebastian Doyle]

2. You forgot about the third thing

Electro fraud machines MUST be annihilated from the face of the earth.

[Bjorn Against]

4. Exactly, Georgia has some of the least transparent elections in the nation

They use Diebold machines with no paper trail and a recent history of the Republican candidate doing way better than the polls suggest they will. In this race Chambliss was considered a narrow favorite, but he won with an improbable landslide. With no paper trail and Georgia's history of shady elections I find it very hard to believe Chambliss won by the margin we are seeing.

[Unsane]

3. Who here actually thought Martin was gonna win this? Come on!

[emilyg]

8. I did not.

[Colobo]

12. Not even Obama did.

[Hippo_Tron]

14. Martin wasn't a top tier candidate by any means

The fact that the race was even close is a sign of Chambliss and Republican weakness.

[orestes]

26. The only chance Martin had in the first place was high turnout on Nov 4th

Unfortunately, the turn out was only enough to force a run off.

[RebelOne]

50. I didn't think Martin would win, but I voted for him anyway. n/t

[Cha]

5. It proves one thing to me..

There's a bunch of fucking idiots down there in Georgia who don't know the difference between who gives a shit about them and who could give a shit.

[keepthemhonest]

6. Ihate Chambliss I hate chambliss.

everytime I would write an email to him he would say" I agree with president Bush"



he is such an idiot. I cannot wait to see what he says when I email him about what our new president is doing.

[Thrill]

9. Proves Georgia is a lost cause.

Put them in the Alabama and Oklahoma column

[RagAss]

20. Yup

[ddeclue]

24. Actually NOT...

the problem was a lack of follow through to get the same people to come out and vote in the run off.

Obama failed to show in Georgia so there wasn't a lot of motivation to those who came out to vote for him to come out and vote for Martin.

[ShadowLiberal]

29. Demographics in Georgia are actually moving slowly in our direction

I must empathize the word 'slowly' however.

The place is becoming more urban/suburban, and democrats do better in those areas then in the rural areas.

I think the Atlanta city suburbs in particular are growing, and we all know what the DC suburbs did to Virginia for us.

[Raine1967]

39. I agree.

Looking at counties like Gwinnet -- things are turning. We came VERY close in the General election... we did NOT get people out to vote for the runoff. it's a damn shame.


Isaakson is said to be leaning towards a run for Governor, so we could take a seat in a few years.

Saxby is a neutered Neo-Con right now. I look forward to him having to change his form letters from the basic "I agree with George Bush, thank you for your support" . This WILL be his last term...I have no questions about that.

[Unsane]

47. GA could become the new VA in a few years.

[beachmom]

53. No, there are signs of hope in GA. First off, Cobb and Gwinnett County

graduated to swing counties in 2008. That is remarkable. We are talking Newt Gingrich's old district. IF those two counties flip some day in the future due to demographic changes AND we get stellar AA turnout, we are talking a purple state.

I mean, Kerry lost GA by nearly 17 points in '04. Obama lost by 5.5 points. That is not an Alabama result.

[mwei924]

10. Yes, Chambliss is an asshole to the nth degree but it doesn't make a huge difference..

..in the big picture. Martin likely would've been a conservative Democrat who would vote w/ Republicans a lot because he comes from a conservative state. Symbolically it would've been nice and brought us closer to 60 but its unlikely he would've been a strong liberal ally in the end.

[Hippo_Tron]

16. Martin would've probably been a valuable ally on economic issues

Social issues probably not so much.

[beachmom]

54. I highly disagree. There was a non-partisan argument against Chambliss:

He is corrupt. If you have followed the Imperial Sugar story, you would know that even Chambliss's colleague Sen. Isaakson was taken aback by what Chambliss did, and disagreed with him.

Chambliss does not serve his constituents: liberal, conservative or otherwise. He serves large corporations who give him fistfuls of money. For that, I am dismayed that he was re-elected.

[bertman]

11. I don't get it. Martin pulled high near 50% in the national election. Why such a shitty

showing today? Were the Democrats staying at home? Why?

[ecstatic]

22. My friends in heavy freep areas said the turnout was big

Bitter repugs hoping to stop Obama somehow. Plus, don't forget, Diebold works wonders.

[bertman]

23. Yep, I'm sure you're right. That and complacency after the big Obama win.

[DainBramaged]

55. Democrats have to work!

:shrug:

[opihimoimoi]

13. Palin Power Prevails...She was the DECIDING FACTOR...there is no other explanation

Flame Suit..... ON......

[doc03]

19. That's what I was thinking, Faux will

give Palin credit for the win.

[Raine1967]

38. Faux didn't even bother to come to Georgia to film Sarah. eom

[Robeson]

17. Not everybody in Georgia is an ignorant redneck....

...but there are a lot who are.

[The Traveler]

21. Lot's of us are well informed red necks

We're just out numbered. Blech. :( Now I'm stuck with Suxby. But recognize that part of the problem was that Martin just is not a very inspiring candidate. We really need to do some party building down here.

[Robeson]

27. Party building? Your and my state, both.

[ecstatic]

25. If Palin actually tipped the scales, then I'm afraid that meme is true

I'm horrified at the thought of Palin actually influencing people to vote for Shameless. You've got to be f*cking kidding me!

[uponit7771]

18. MARTIN RAN AWAY FROM OBAMA DURING THE GE, HE GETS WHAT HE DESERVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How in the world was Martin going to garner the substantial black vote in GA if he runs away from the only DEM viable black candidate?

Come on people, let get our facts sKrait

[onefreespiritedchick]

37. I just read Martin did not vote for Obama in the GE, went for Edwards instead

http://projectlogicga.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/ajc-vernon-jones-on-jim-martin-and-obama/

[elkston]

43. If its true, that's pretty low. Esp. since Edwards was out at that time.

It would be different if Edwards was still in the race, but to actually make a protest vote.

Georgia has a long way to go.

[RollWithIt]

30. It only proves that Georgia is one seriously fucked up state....

That's about it.

[Athens30603]

33. Not all of it. Not at all. n/t

[AllentownJake]

36. Its like any other state

There are parts of PA, NJ, CA, etc...that I would not want to live in politically.

[regnaD kciN]

34. And a third thing: caving to Traitor Joe was a dumb move...

Granted, if Martin and Franken had won, and we had fallen one vote short of 60 because we'd driven Joementum to the Republicans, that would also have been a dumb move. But it's a shame the decision had to be made before all the results were known.

[AllentownJake]

35. Georgia might swing in our direction in 8 years

Depends if demographics continue to shift and more people move into the state and a succesful Obama Presidency

That being said democrats who vote only once every 4 years were less inclined to show up at the polls because they already one. GOP were more likely to vote because they felt like they lost.

2010 is going to be tough, even if Obama is doing well. Big reason complacency. Most Presidents no matter how popular lose seats in the follow-up election. The GOP gained seats by scaring the shit out of the country in 2002 and that is one of the few exceptions I know of.

[amborin]

41. chambliss is just about the worst

[LisaL]

44. LOL.

Life isn't fair and Chambliss' victory is not necessary to figure that out.

[Vinca]

46. A better candidate could have beaten Chambliss.

The Democrat in this race set a new record for lack of charisma. Obama's got coattails, but he's not a miracle worker.

[wyldwolf]

59. I agree with your second point but not your first

We had a very charismatic candidate in the primaries in Rand Knight. Total package: Young, smart, good looking, beautiful family, and a sparkling personality. He had tons of volunteers and a decent amount of money - but lost.

Yesterday shows Obama's coattails carried the Democrat in the GE but those voters didn't come back in the runoff.

If many Obama voters in GA were politically involved, they would have come back. But many Obama voters were voting for Obama - not the Democratic party and not for a veto-proof majority they probably don't even understand.

And before anyone suggests it - I'm not just talking about black voters. I'm also talking about young white uninvolved first time voters.

[polichick]

48. According to Chambliss...

...it means Georgia's conservatism still matters. (Just heard him say this.)

[cooolandrew]

51. We can at least repair relations in the first 2 years fix the economy all sides want to see >

a move on that so it ain't all bad the environment sadly might have to wait up a while. BUT it's all about awareness folks must keep getting people to watch the 11th hour documentary. Tell right wingers it's rambo or something.

[Mike Daniels]

52. Actually, it proves that Chambliss probably would have won in Nov if not for the third party

Did anyone think that anyone supporting the Libertarian was going to decide to vote for Martin?

[wyldwolf]

57. the libertarian's numbers in the GE don't make up for the lopsided win yesterday

Simply put, people who were excited about Obama didn't return to vote in the runoff.

[AndrewP]

58. Chambliss is a grade A Asshat