Bill Richardson

[SwampG8r]

im a fan
im not sure if he is the first hispanic to serve in a cabinet position
i would like to congratulate him and all of the hispanic DU community
he ran a clean campaign
he showed honor,judgement,loyalty and trustworthiness (is that a word?)
he is a true patriot and hero
he will be a genuine assett to this administration and i wish him well

thank you bill richardson

Im no seguro si él es el primer hispano de servir en una posición de gabinete
que querría felicitarlo y toda la comunidad hispana de DU
él corrió una campaña limpia
él mostró honor, el juicio, la lealtad y la honradez
él es un patriota y el héroe verdaderos
que él será un verdadero assett a esta administración y yo lo deseo bien
gracias bill richardson

[mkultra]

1. word up to bill

and congrats to bill on seeing the light early on. A man of true judgment.

[SwampG8r]

2. he is being used as a gloat toy and i dont like it one bit

he is a hero

[mkultra]

10. sorry, but i really mean it.

It takes courage to go with a new-comer early on. Im SERIOUSLY praising his judgment on this. If his choices hurt the feelings of a few, then it is THEY that must deal.

[SwampG8r]

12. i know you meant it

i wasnt commenting on you
you have actually provided me with the laughs i needed to get through the horrid choice in other positions
what you did last week was the epic of all funny
never have i seen such work
i sir
am not worthy
thank you for providing me with the tools to cope

[mkultra]

13. you are too kind.

[FSogol]

3. Yup Richardson is great. Wasn't Henry Cisternos the 1st Latino in a cabinet position? n/t

[SwampG8r]

4. as i said i dont know

i would actually be surprised if he was first
i would think that in americas rich stew there has been more than one spoonful of cumin mixed in

[amandabeech]

76. Yes. The current Commerce Secretary is Carlos Gutierrez.

He was formerly the CEO of Kellogg's.

He is of Cuban descent.

Of course, Alberto Gonzales was of Central American descent, but that's best forgotten.

I'm thinking that there may have been another one in the Bush fiascos, but I'm not positive.

[DevonRex]

5. I'm a fan, too.

I'd like to congratulate him and thank him for his willingness to serve.

[SwampG8r]

7. thanks for coming by

i actually wrote this for folks like you
and me too
who are seeing the left handed shots taken at this great man by some bitter people here on DU
and are tired of the trashing of a man who should be revered for his courage and judgement

[Sebastian Doyle]

14. Yeah, I saw that crappy thread yesterday.

It was set up for that very purpose. They just can't let it go.

Good to see Governor Richardson at Commerce. For all his detractors want to attack him, I would counter with the fact that this is now Richardson's third job in the Executive branch. And it's absolutely no surprise that he was going to be somewhere in this Administration (though it's no secret I was hoping he'd get the State Department)

[DevonRex]

15. You are quite right and thank you so very much for YOUR courage

in writing this OP. I join you in saying enough is enough. No more trashing of this tremendous democrat who showed the strength of his convictions and excellent judgment. I love his intelligence and sense of humor. I love it that he is a fellow westerner. And I love it that our hispanic brothers and sisters are being heard and are represented at all levels of government.

His experience as Secretary of Commerce will add to an already amazing resume - one that would be difficult for anyone to beat in 8 years. :)

[Adelante]

6. Yes, Congratulations to the Gov on this important new appointment

Recommended

[IndianaJones]

8. he was a great member of Bill Clintons cabinet. I am glad Obama has recognized this. nt.

[SwampG8r]

9. yes his experience has made us all richer

[SwampG8r]

11. if you are fluent in spanish

and i screwed up the translation i apologize
my spanish is muy sucko
i should have had the wife do it
she could have done it in creole spanish french conjubal quiche and english

she is the bomb!

[Shiver]

17. Gotta love a woman with a command of languages...

Agree with everything you said, even if I didn't understand the Spanish bits. Enjoy your fifth rec.

[SwampG8r]

18. shes a midwife

in south florida
we get lots of guatamalans from the outback and a lot of islanders too
she picks up languages easier than i do
i barely speak english

[dmallind]

16. Well as BR for prez guy initially I feel mixed

Obviously (as I and no doubt he even better by far) realized at the time there was very little chance for him to become president. I had perhaps hoped he would be SoS but despite his resume he can't match Hillary's star power and international appeal so OK. Commerce is a good cabinet position. It's maybe not an ideal match for him in my mind but I'm sure he'll do a bang up job.

Oh and a lot of the angst some DUers have with him comes from two issues - his admittedly ill considered and probably misleading answer that he considered homosexuality a choice not something a person is born to be, and rather strained and fourteenth-hand rumors about his insensitivity to women in meetings and staff interactions etc.

Even if all these are tru, I have to judge a person on the sum of their abilities and perfection is not an option for any human. Obama is too religiously geared for me for example, but I doubnt that will stop him from being a fine president any more than Bill R's pecadillos will stop him being a fine Commerce Sec - and those are the important criteria.

[SwampG8r]

19. on the choice wording

i firmly believe he meant to say preference
as in sexual preference
those using this have other issues they are hiding behind it
i myself feel he is in commerce as a stopover before the inevitable happens and we need a new SoS
a back up if you will
ready on day one

[dmallind]

21. I agree on all counts but a bit less probable for SoS than you suggest IMO.

Hillary is not going to be a bad SoS I don't think, and the only good way to end that relationship is to resign in 2014 with the express inyent of running for prez when BO no longer can (by which time whe will be susceptible to the same claims of age worry that Reagan and McCain were) or just flat out retiring, which I can't see as likely.

The only other options even if just spun as an amicable agreement will always be seen as a "firing" or inability to get along.

[thoughtcrime1984]

20. I am glad he accepted Commerce, he'll do a fine job.

I thought he'd be SoS, but this post is not exactly a kick in the sack, either.

[SwampG8r]

22. the best guy in the cabinet!

[SwampG8r]

23. i will kick this to the top

as long as that thread taking cheap shots at him is up

[SwampG8r]

24. kick for an american hero

[Beausoir]

25. Believes that being gay is a choice.

Prove me wrong.

[SwampG8r]

27. shame on you

to push a lie is almost as bad as telling one to begin with
richardsons own record as governor makes a mockery of your claim

[musicblind]

78. Shame on you for pushing a lie

Did Richardson not say that? He did say that. He has been very gay friendly in some of his policy decisions. Which is to be expected... but it is no lie to state that he said he feels homosexuality is a choice. That is a very offensive position to many in the gay community. Myself included. He made a retraction that he miss-spoke... but you cannot take back something like that.

That being said, it doesn't mean I dislike him for it, but please do not try and become a historical revisionist. He did say it.

[mkultra]

79. not everyone is perfect

[Starry Messenger]

26. I'm excited by what a powerful team we're getting.

I can't imagine what I'd be feeling this month if I was watching McCain building his "team":


I can't wait to see stuff start to happen in January. :hi:

[SwampG8r]

28. i hope he would have given a really good job to severed head

maybe severed head needs to forward his resume

[Starry Messenger]

30. That reminds me:

Maybe we could just clone severed head--he's obviously the man of the hour.

[SwampG8r]

31. can the severed head of a former

2 term president be elected?where does the constitution stand on the whole severed head versus unsevered head thing?

[Starry Messenger]

66. I would think it would be preferable.

A lack of oxygen to the brain has been a hallmark of the administration of the last 8 years. I'm surprised they didn't amend the constitution in favor of severed head.

[SwampG8r]

29. kicking for severed head

hes the head for the job dammit!

[SwampG8r]

32. im kicking this til the foul thread is gone

[cboy4]

33. Who kicks their own unpopular thread so many times

like you're doing?

:crazy:

[SwampG8r]

34. look at the recs here

and the recs there
see a difference in the number?

[cboy4]

35. 14 recs since 10am Pacific Time? That's awful.

And the other thread isn't mine.

So I can't be blamed or praised for any number of recs since it's not my work.

[SwampG8r]

36. it has one in a day and a half

and thank you too btw as your replies do kick it even more

so thanks so much

[cboy4]

38. What did I just say? It's not my thread.....we're talking about your

thread that's registered barely one recommendation an hour since it was posted.

Disgraceful. lol

[SwampG8r]

yes terrible isnt it

how is the weather where you are
its turning a little chilly here

[cboy4]

44. Yea, it's been chilly here also because of FOG

:wtf:

But I refuse to put away my Cargo shorts

[SwampG8r]

46. i get the ocean breeze so i never see fog

have you read this?
Governor Bill Richardson to Receive International Role Model Award at
International Equality Dinner

PHILADELPHIA, May 1 /USNewswire-PRNewswire/ -- Equality Forum, a national
and international GLBT civil rights organization, will recognize New Mexico
Governor Bill Richardson with its 13th annual International Role Model Award,
and Wachovia Corporation will receive its 2008 International Business
Leadership Award. The awards will be presented at the International Equality
Dinner at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia on Saturday, May 3
during Equality Forum 2008.
As Governor of New Mexico, Richardson has expanded anti-discrimination
laws to include sexual orientation and gender identity, and signed into law
the state's hate crimes legislation for acts including those based on sexual
orientation and gender identity. He provided state health insurance for
domestic partnerships, and called a special legislative session to enact civil
union benefits.
"Throughout his career in public service, Governor Richardson has been a
strong supporter and friend of the GLBT community. Governor Richardson has
repeatedly used his political standing to champion GLBT civil rights," stated
Malcolm Lazin, Executive Director of Equality Forum.

interesting stuff

[cboy4]

50. Oh sweet. I hadn't seen it.....thanks for alerting me....why I have

a whole new view on Richardson.

[SwampG8r]

51. i would never think you would be persuaded so easily

i actually hoped that to read it might lessen your antagonism towards him for his supposed homophobia if not for other reasons

so is the pacific really cold all the time?we get a nice warm ocean most of the year but i hear the pacific stays cold
wild wacky stuff eh?

[cboy4]

53. Yea, hard to believe the Pacific (at least in Northern Calif) stays

cold with all of that icy, Arctic water drifting southeast from Alaska and the Bering Sea. :eyes:

As opposed to Florida where the water circulates around the bitter Caribbean.

The water warms up in Southern California, but it's not the bath water you guys get.

on edit...crappy typing (much like the crappy number of recs your threads get)

[SwampG8r]

54. ooooo how your jesting does sting me

i take it you are in northern california
i have heard that is really beautiful country
very flat here no terrain features to speak of
you are lucky to have such geographic diversity

[cboy4]

58. I live two hour from the ocean and the Bay Area to the west and

two hours from the snow and Lake Tahoe/Reno to the east.

Yea, it's beautiful.

And the worst sun burn I got in my life happened while I was going to the University of Tennessee and on a road trip to Daytona Beach.

I swear I was sure I was going to have to go to the burn unit. :cry:

[SwampG8r]

oh im in pain for you

the sun here will strip paint
literally
it makes pvc pipe turn to powder
i worked 18 months in a bakery starting at midnight and the next job i had was as a blockmasons mud man
after the first day on that shiny slab i had open seeping burns on my pasty skin
i still have the keloids today

gonna grow some nice cancer there i betcha!

[cboy4]

64. Brutal

:(

[SwampG8r]

65. look how well we are interacting

see?rodney king was right!

[cboy4]

68. Well, all it took was for you to concede I'm right.

:)

[SwampG8r]

69. i missed that part

it must have been after you said how cool i am and how correct i was in my thinking
or maybe after the part where you were wishing you were as beautiful as me
i cant remember now
what the hell were we disputing anyways?

[cboy4]

72. I think you've inhaled too much salt water today,

It was fun mixing it up with you.

And it's going to happen again .. especially with your goofball love affair with Bill Richardson.

But in the end, we're Dems, and it should hopefully be a happy 4-8 years to come. :toast:

Later!

[SwampG8r]

71. i have to be off to bed

im glad we are not closing the day on a bad note
you seem like a very nice person

[cboy4]

74. Of course I'm nice.

:)

[SwampG8r]

56. great whites eh?

i would crap my baggies if i saw a great white
we get monster hammerheads but they very rarely get confused enough to bite anyone

i surfed the small break here until my knees went into retirement but never anything like your average west coast break

[cboy4]

61. Along with monster sharks, we get monster waves here dude.

Mavericks has some of the best winter surf on the planet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavericks_(location)

[SwampG8r]

62. c'mon fella

why you wanna tease an old man who has bad knees?
why do you hate the aged and infirm brah?

[cboy4]

67. Don't feel bad....I'm nowhere good enough to go anywhere near there!

[SwampG8r]

70. hawaii?

when these wusses here cry about storm surge i show them stuff like that so they can regain perspective

[cboy4]

73. It's not Hawaii you dork.

It's near Half Moon Bay, California .. just south of San Francisco.

[Starry Messenger]

75. That's from Half Moon Bay?

Whoa.

[Starry Messenger]

37. I have!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7641746

:D

[SwampG8r]

39. well i couldnt ask for a higher authority

self kicking is a ok!

[cboy4]

40. LOL. Well at least your's was far more interesting and

well-written. HA

[SwampG8r]

41. yes i agree

he is a much better writer than i can hope to be

[Starry Messenger]

47. Nonsense, sir.

Your work with biscuits has been superlative. An inspiration.

[SwampG8r]

49. i blush with humility

but i brush with butter!

[Starry Messenger]

43. Shucks.

It just never found its audience. Anyway, I'm still in this one, because we still need to figure out how to deal with the whole severed head question. Lives are in the balance.

[SwampG8r]

48. if severed heads

are outlawed only outlaws will have severed heads

[Starry Messenger]

60. I just logged out to go read it.

I have the OP on ignore. Several posters are acquitting themselves well in there, though. I just got tired of kitty litter.

[JeffR]

42. First Hispanic Cabinet Secretary might have been Henry Cisneros

in '93. I could be wrong.

[SwampG8r]

45. i would say that there was another but far enough back in history to be forgotten

we have a long heritage in america with hispanics
and anyone who is from the southwest is most likely a little spicy

[JeffR]

57. You're right.

Lauro Cavazos (Education), 1988 and Manuel Lujan (Interior), 1989.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=Y-iZai2uv_sC&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=hispanic+cabinet+secretaries&source=web&ots=TiWBg2cPTq&sig=3Ctg6dElwbUGQoErjtGgB8Qr4ec&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result

Farther back than that, I haven't found anything.

[SwampG8r]

59. and those who like richardson having english surnames will not be divided out

those who had latinas as madres will not be listed as hispanic

[JeffR]

63. Yep.

[SwampG8r]

52. kick

[SwampG8r]

55. el kicko

[DevonRex]

77. I'll kick too, until that other awful thread is gone. :)