My opinion on the groping thing.

[ccharles000]

I think he should not be fired because he apologized and is young. But what he did was stupid and was (in my opinion)being an asshole.

[firedupdem]

1. I agree. Hillary laughed it off and so should the rest of us. If she

isn't pissed then it's not a big deal. He is young and stupid......he better not blow this opportunity!!

[johnaries]

63. That's how I feel. Hillary laughed it off, so it's a non-story. nt

[pnwmom]

2. What groping thing? n/t

[ccharles000]

4. ...

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[pnwmom]

53. Thanks. I'd forgotten all about that. I vote with the people who say

the controversy is incredibly trivial. Of course Hillary laughed it off.

[polichick]

3. Has Barack commented?

[ccharles000]

6. ...

I don't know :hug:

[Sidney J Mussburger]

5. This needed a new thread.

[mtnsnake]

9. Yeah it did. Maybe someday you'll garner up the guts to start a thread of your own, Sidney

instead of running around crapping on other peoples threads.

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[QC]

55. Mistah Mussberger, he dead. n/t

[kiva]

7. How old would he need to be before we stop saying that

he's too young to know better? Many young DUers complain, with good reason, that they are sometimes dismissed here as being too young to express their opinions. If we support the idea that an 18 year old is mature enough to be trusted with the right to vote, why would we dismiss Faverau's lack of judgment because of his age--which is 27, not exactly a teenager. I too think that his apology makes a difference, and I agree that he shouldn't be fired because of this lapse of judgment, just wish we would stop pretending that anyone under the age of 30 is congenitally stupid.

[ccharles000]

8. You know I never thought about that.

I guess I should have as I am 19. :hug:

[kiva]

10. You and other young DUers are what makes me happy

and more optimistic about the future. :hug:

[Fridays Child]

12. I just hope that someone sits him down and for a serious talk about respect for women.

When men demonstrate their disrespect of women, to brush it off as a joke, or as unimportant, is to give permission for it to continue.

[ccharles000]

13. I agree.

[question everything]

14. He should be fired for being stupid, not for "groping"

This will be the only one he will learn the lesson. Otherwise he will just shrug his shoulders, figuring that all he has to do is apologize - what a great start for a political career.

We do not punish politicians for their actions but for not apologizing.

Remember how Edwards demanded that Hillary drop to her knees, pound her chest and apologize for her IWR vote?

[Sidney J Mussburger]

15. Yeah, Right On!

Remember how the Republicans demanded President Clinton be impeached for a blowjob in the oval office? Yeah, we need to be more like Republicans, except more extreme. NO cardboard cutout tomfoolery in OUR NEW PURE DEMOCRATIC party! Fire his ASS! Praise JEEBUS!

[mtnsnake]

17. You are sick

All you do is run around from thread to thread mocking other posters when you have zero to contribute yourself, and then you whine like a little baby if someone calls you on it. You really should seek help.

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[kiva]

19. Several of the posters here who have called

Favreau on this aren't necessarily Hillary supporters. Many were Obama supporters from the beginning and are annoyed at this idiot for providing fresh fodder for the Freepers. Others think it smacks of sexism--it was a cutout of Hillary, not Obama or another man. And yes, some people who are offended just like Hillary and think it shows a lack of respect for her, and it's hard not to agree. If someone is criticizing you for defending this idiot, they have some good reasons.

[mtnsnake]

20. I'm a stalker for posting to you in 2 threads about the same subject in the same day?

Now THAT is precious! If you think that's stalking then you don't know what stalking is. In case you forgot it was YOU who initiated any exchange that originally took place between you and me with your ridiculous mockery of another post I did earlier. You reap what you sow. Cry about that, too, if you want.

BTW, why is that YOU are stalking Question Everything? I notice that you stalked him here from another thread, so practice what you preach. Have a little cheese with that whine while your at it. Here, maybe this will help...

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[mtnsnake]

28. Bumping into someone in a similar thread in the same day is not stalking

It's called remembering.

You just had the unfortunate experience of happening to be in another thread that I was interested in after you made a fool of yourself in an earlier one just previous to that.

Cry me a river, Sidney. You're starting to amuse me.

[Sidney J Mussburger]

32. Interesting

So you 'bumping' into me in similar threads, all of which you've made a fool of yourself in, equates to me being a previously tombstoned zombie who's waited 7 months after rejoining DU to renew our previous history. Quite an imagination you have there. This has been fun mtnsnake, but all good things must come to an end. Bye Now.

[Clintonista2]

34. 7 months? Who are you referring to?

[mtnsnake]

35. There you go again

making lame attempts to mock me by using my own words from the previous post. JackORoses used to try the same exact feeble ploy.

Bye Now

awwww, please don't go yet...

[Clintonista2]

36. JackORoses' zombie is no longer with us.

:rofl::rofl:

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[mtnsnake]

38. Ouch! Good work by the mods

and good job by you, too, Lirwin. :thumbsup:

[kiva]

41. Thank you mods! n/t

[QC]

59. Is JackoffRoses back?

Few have ever deserved the tombstone more than that one did.

[Clintonista2]

65. Aww you missed all the fun!

JackORoses came back to life as the poster Sidney J Mussburger. Mtnsnake shot him with her silver bullet shotgun, putting him back in the grave (hopefully) for good!

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[mtnsnake]

23. No kidding. The guy is obviously a zombie who's returned here after getting pizza.

Otherwise he/she wouldn't be crying a river about running into me in only two threads in its life....so it must be that he/she and I have a previous history from years past or something. I can't believe how easy they give it away sometimes.

[Clintonista2]

27. Maybe 'ol Ethelk2044 is back from the dead!

:rofl::rofl:

[mtnsnake]

29. Or even worse....

maybe it's Kucinich4America! That dimwit did more to ruin the good name of Dennis Kucinich than any other poster on this board!

:rofl: :rofl:

[Sidney J Mussburger]

26. Good luck with that!

[mtnsnake]

30. This would be my best guess, Lirwin

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[Clintonista2]

31. LMAO I would have to agree with that

Their styles are almost identical!

[HughMoran]

39. This topic is fucking stupid

...that it's not even worth mocking the morans that want to make it into a big deal.

Stupidest topic ever on DU.

[karynnj]

25. He appologized and HRC accepted it - and it was pretty minor

It was remarkably stupid, but it is something that he has to live with now.

If Edwards demanded that HRC "drop to her knees, pound her chest and apologize for her IWR vote" that was complete demagoguery. He was more of a war cheerleader and a co-sponsor. He did not do that himself - all he did was write "I was wrong" in a Washington Post op-ed.

[Whisp]

62. The guy is not 'stupid'... come on...

he had a minor error in judgement
but not near as the ones that made the Iraq war happen, and countless other horrifics .

good gawd but this is getting overblown.
Cooper on CNN was just chomping at the bit to make this 'news' and unfortunately so many here agree it is. ugh.

[apocalypsehow]

16. Good Lord, there was/is NO "GROPING THING" - for there to be a "groping thing" an ACTUAL human being

would have to have been groped. Cardboard cutouts are not sentient human beings by proxy. This entire "controversy" is the very definition of silliness distilled to its finest internet essence.

[kiva]

43. And when that moran hung Obama in effigy on Halloween,

it was just a stuffed figure.

[apocalypsehow]

49. Stupid analogy and offensive to boot.

Congrats, you get a two-fer in the moronic statements department. :thumbsup:

[kiva]

54. But it was just some fabric and stuffing.

And it looked a lot less like Obama than this bit of cardboard looked like Hillary. And as far as offensive, you don't think that mimicking grouping a woman is offensive? Oh, right this was a joke--sort of the same explanation the Halloween idiot offered.

[apocalypsehow]

64. Odd how those whose inner moron starts seriously showing still wish to stick with it.

Good luck with that.

[NYC_SKP]

22. He should be left entirely alone, this is the funniest fucking controversy ever.

If he was pantless and doing something with his thingy to the face of the cardboard cutout, it would maybe be worth of a reprimand.

But this?

It is a cardboard cutout. If touching the private place of a cardboard cutout is any kind of an offense for ANYONE, then just fucking shoot me, I want out of this society.

[FlaGranny]

33. I'm kind of with you.

90% of people, male AND female, have done stupid things. It's not a big deal at all. I was not offended by it - I just remembered back to some of the silly things I've done in the past.

[Forkboy]

40. The reaction is way funnier than the actual incident.

DU is priceless. :rofl:

[NYC_SKP]

58. Priceless...

Yes, it is some of the best entertainment on the net.

You can't make this shit up.....

[HughMoran]

37. Here's my opinion on this all-important issue of the day - see within ->

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[La Lioness Priyanka]

42. yup. i think if the pic had been of michelle instead of clinton though, a lot of his defenders here

would be asking for his head.

[Forkboy]

44. There's no doubt about that one.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

47. i dont think its the end of the world but i do think it was disrespectful and sexist.

ofcourse for the rabid clinton haters, i am sure she had it coming

[FrenchieCat]

45. Michelle wasn't running to be commander-in-chief.

I think this incident has seen more light than required.
It was silly, and unnecessary,
but it was cardboard and not the end of the world.

If we are supposed to be upset and hold a grudge,
than I would still be pissed in how Hillary Clinton mocked me, as an Obama supporter,
when she talked about how the heavens would open up.
I'm way passed that, and so is she.
It's called acting like a magnanimous adult,
and thank goodness it will be they running the government,
not some here at DU, many who seem to have a grudge holding children-like mentality.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

46. i didn't expect you to understand the hypocrisy. nt

[FrenchieCat]

48. What Hypocrisy? The example used was speculatory.

and the last thing we need to be doing is comparing something that happened
with something that didn't.

John McCain had nasty things to say about Chelsea......
but I didn't see that upsetting either Bill or Hillary,
in making only negative comments about John McCain.

My point is that these politicians obviously are much tougher,
and have much more confidence than we give them credit for.

And my point stands that Michelle Obama is not appropriate to compare Hillary Clinton to.
One is the spouse of a politician, and the other is an actual politician.

[Mushroom]

61. Grudging

Sexism is a vengeful old god fanatically worshiped and defended for the cause, any cause.

Democrats effortlessly and passionately shed light on sexism with hearts of lions and cerebral fortitude no matter the horse it rode in on. It's a moral imperative, not a whine, not obama damage control.

:shrug:

[boston bean]

50. what if it was this instead?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/think_about_it/3087215807/

[Alexander]

51. What if Hillary's husband disrespected her by cheating on her?

Oh wait, that already happened.

And as usual, the Clinton sycophants have nothing to say about it.

[QC]

56. And what if you were to drop your bizarre obsession with Bill Clinton's pecker?

You would be left silent, most likely, since nothing else seems to interest you much.

[Alexander]

52. Clinton supporters griping about feeling up a piece of cardboard is laughably ironic.

Bill Clinton did far worse things to his own wife, like repeatedly cheating on her.

[kiva]

57. So because her husband cheated on her,

she's fair game for a couple of idiots?

[mwei924]

60. Well no one wanted to fire Bill Clinton over Monica.. so why get all worked up over this?

This is like the most un-controversial controversy ever. Bill Clinton got in trouble for lying about his embarrassing business, still not enough reason to remove him from his job. So why would you wanna fire an incredibly talented young speechwriter for something that's about 1000000x tamer and less controversial than what Clinton did as President?

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