So I'm watching Tweety's banner assert "liberals angry at Obama's center-right cabinet,"

[Occam Bandage]

and my first reaction is to get irritated. After all, liberals are by and large quite happy with Obama, and claiming otherwise based on a few determined malcontents is pure pot-stirring. Conflict leads to ratings, after all. But then I realized: if the MSM is asserting, without qualification, that Hillary Clinton, Bill Richardson, Tim Geitner, and James Jones are more right wing than the average American, then I think that's a good sign for our fight to recapture the American soul.

[saracat]

1. Actually quite a few liberals ARE upset. There have been quite a few

articles about this.And many postings on DU and the "liberal" blogs indicate this is so. It remains to be seen what path Obama will actually take in the presidency but he hasn't appointed many liberals. And Rahm Emmanuel isn't a good sign.

[Occam Bandage]

4. Sorry, but you and your handful of can't-get-over-its are not "quite a few."

Obama's approval rating is sky-high, and those against him are almost entirely the Bush faithful.

[saracat]

5. Sorry but this isn't about Obama approval ratings . It is unhppiness with cabinet appointments

and whether you like it or not there is a lot of buzz about those. It remains to be seen how it will all shake out.And they are referring only to liberals.

[AllentownJake]

6. Did you do anything for his election?

Just curious.

I did a shit load and I've been doing a happy dance since 8pm Nov. 4 when they called PA.

[FrenchieCat]

11. Don't even ask.

Voting for Obama is even doubtful when talking about this poster.
I'm guessing that she Probably wrote in John Edwards' name.

[AllentownJake]

16. Oh, I know this poster

That's why I asked Frenchie :evilgrin:

[saracat]

35. Actually I did. I passed out bumper stickers , buttons and made calls

And, without being thrilled, I voted for him. But I was a campaign manager for a local race and was more interested in the local races, honestly. Get over yourself and the primaries.

[Occam Bandage]

12. Nope. Polls show that most people--and the vast majority of liberals--are very happy

with his appointments. The only people who aren't are the fringey perpetual malcontents and the sore losers.

[stillcool]

20. I don't think you are a very good..

spokesperson for those on the left who are unhappy with 'cabinet appointments'. You've made it very clear, for a very long time now, that you are repulsed by the very idea of a President-elect Obama. I have no problem with your opinion, but I do think it is disingenuous to suggest that your unhappiness has to do with his 'cabinet appointments'.

[saracat]

36. I do not claim to be a "spokesperson" for anyone.

But it is disingenous to imply that many on the left are not unhappy with some of the cabinet choices. My inbox is full of the complaining. Everyone from Tim Carpenter of PDA to Amrica's Blog.

[jefferson_dem]

15. Sirota, Bowers, Aravosis, a few posters at KOS and a handful of discontented DUers on one side...

A circle-jerk of screaming lunatic freepers unloading their tinfoilhattery on the other.

Sounds like Obama's doing something right. :)

[No Elephants]

33. Don't judge by the most vocal. Polls show that the a majority of Americans

and an overwhelming majority of all Democrats think Obama has been doing a great job with the transition, including the Cabinet picks.

[saracat]

43. And the majority of Americans aren't "liberals " or considered leftists.

[Alter Ego]

34. You seem to have an unnatural hatred for Rahm Emanuel.

Did he kill your dog or something?

[saracat]

37. Do you know anything about him? And I do not "hate" him. I do not care for some of his politics.

[Alter Ego]

38. Yeah, I know about him.

He's a member of the DLC wing of the party with a reputation for ruthlessness who happens to dislike Howard Dean.

But he likes to win, no matter what the cost--and that makes him a valuable ally.

[saracat]

42. Well , he would sacrifice any ideal to win and is very much a "hawk"

but whatever turns your crank. I just happen to think integrity still counts for something.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

47. thank you. a voice of reason !!

[pinto]

2. Lacking a breaking news situation - a crash, a murder, or such - cable news needs a story. n/t

[tridim]

9. There was a crash today.

[FrenchieCat]

3. True....to some degree, they are now categorizing correctly.

How about that?

However, then Chris Matthews said, Obama should be how he promised he would be during the election. However, when I think about it, I don't recall how Obama characterized himself, other than to say that he wanted everyone to vote for him. Did I miss a speech in where he announced that he was a left wing progressive? :shrug:

[AllentownJake]

7. I don't know what he's back tracked on?

The only thing I can think of is the windfall profits tax and if gas is at 1.00 a gallon there are really no windfall profits to tax.

He never said how he'd end the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy whether he would let them expire or repeal them.

:shrug:

[high density]

8. I gave Tweety about 45 seconds this afternoon before I shut him off

He's either talking about bullshit or stuff that's a week old. It's insulting as a viewer.

[AllentownJake]

17. He got his contract

Liberal Tweety courting PA primary voters is gone

:rofl:

[Occam Bandage]

18. Oh, did he? I missed that.

That would explain the shift in tenor of his show.

[AllentownJake]

19. According to Huffington and Politico

No official announcement though. I think the PA thing was a negotiation tool the entire time.

[rvablue]

26. Of course it was and if you look up the NYT mag piece on him

from a while back -- within the year-- and before Russert died (who did not like Matthews) he had a serious concern that he wasn't going to get renewed at all.

And the fact that any on DU took him seriously or thought it was a good idea for him to run as the Democrat in Pennsylvania is very, very sad...............

[AllentownJake]

32. I don't really think DU has been that supportive

Very few people on here were pro-Tweety running and till Today even people on MSNBC were taking him seriously Tucker certainly did and he works on the network last week.

[rvablue]

25. Amen and unbelievable really that this weekend some DUers were touting his bona fides

to be the Democratic nominee for Senate in Pennsylvania.

After all the talk the past eight years, UN-EFFIN-BELIEVABLE.......

[Beacool]

29. If he runs for the senate in PA,

I'll be spending a fair amount of time in that state campaigning for any candidate who runs against him and I don't care their party affiliation. I detest the sexist, lisping turd!!!!!!!

:mad:

Oh goodie, I just changed channels and who's on my screen? Rev. Wright spewing one of his "unity" sermons, here we go again.........

:eyes:

[gblady]

46. he is very annoying...

I can't take but about 5 minutes of his voice....
and his rudeness....

he asks questions and then jumps in with his answer...
doesn't even listen to what the person is saying...
except for ammunition either for his personal view
or against interviewees position...

seems totally egocentric...

[Pisces]

10. REading DU shows you some of those angry liberals. Maybe they are just freepers trying

to cause havoc. I think you had your ears closed if you thought Obama was going to be some radical lefty. He is there to get things done with bipartisan cooperation.

[Occam Bandage]

13. And they are in the minority, even on a site that caters to the leftiest of the left.

[happychatter]

24. I think there is heartfelt and well grounded concern

but the FACT that freepers are chanting "bushama, bushama" gives ME pause

they love this idea even more than matthews

I love a lot of these "lefties" that are watching Obama like hawks

on commondreams.. at democracynow...

I think Obama listens to them just as I do

yeah... he does

[NewJeffCT]

14. The more angry liberals the better

We're here to make noise, get angry and to also make Obama seem like he's governing from the center when he's enacting left-of-center legislation. If he proposes universal healthcare, we criticize him for not going far enough; if he withdraws most troops from Iraq in a year, we criticize him for not doing it within 6 months; if he proposes to invest $100 billion in infrastructure, we criticize it for not being $200 billion...

[ecstatic]

21. True, but the label "liberal" still gets tarnished in the process

Now, we will be despised by mainstream/centrists as well as the GOP. Also, black americans might start to wonder about this angry group of liberals who are turning on PE Obama so soon after the election.

[BeFree]

22. Indeed

The moniker 'liberal' has a hard enough time making it in politics without all the nagging going on about Obama's picks.

While it is true that:

We're here to make noise, get angry and to also make Obama seem like he's governing from the center when he's enacting left-of-center legislation.

We walk a fine line doing so. Well, some of us have crossed that line. I put it down to inexperience, just plain trash-talking, and simple minded contrariness.

I mean come on, Obama was elected to preside over HIS administration... let him preside! Let him pick who he wants to work side-by-side with him everyday. This constant nagging about minutiae is going way of track, and frankly embarrasses me as a liberal, seeing how other supposed liberals are acting the fool.

We are here to make noise, but who doesn't prefer music noise over tongue wagging noise?

[ShortnFiery]

41. I much prefer "liberal" to "the left" like were all sinistral and scary.

:P

[w4rma]

23. Good. It's somewhat honest. (nt)

[yardwork]

27. I don't pay much attention to liberals. Socialists like me aren't surprised by Obama's cabinet.

I'm certainly not angry with Obama about anything.

[jonnyblitz]

28. yeah, it's hard to get angry when you don't expect muct to begin

with. I am mostly indifferent at best but I DO find it amusing how fucking thin skinned his DU personality cult is.

[boppers]

31. DU thin-skinned?

Next you'll be telling me that we're easily outraged!

;)

[Uzybone]

30. The small whiney faction of "liberals" are giving liberals a bad name

as a liberal I'm happy with Obamas choices so far (apart from Gates but that makes sense).

[ShortnFiery]

40. As a unabashed liberal I'm always VIGILANT.

I'm less than thrilled with Obama's Cabinet selections so far, but what the hell, I never expected to be consulted. ;)

[ShortnFiery]

39. Tweety was slobbering MANIC yesterday. Seriously, I think he's off his meds.

:crazy:

[LWolf]

44. I guess I have to stir that pot a little harder, lol,

if I want to be taken for more than one of a few "determined malcontents."

I've certainly been determined in my opposition to centrism, including Obama's centrism, for many years.

I agree with this part: <snip>

if the MSM is asserting, without qualification, that Hillary Clinton, Bill Richardson, Tim Geitner, and James Jones are more right wing than the average American, then I think that's a good sign for our fight to recapture the American soul.

Perhaps all that pot-stirring has had more effect than just to strengthen my arm muscles. ;)

[maddowfan]

45. "Who Thinks Ann Coulter Is Hot? Let's Go Around The Room!"

Tweety is a Neocon.