Obama Will Pardon Bush

[andyrowe]

And I believe Obama will make that known very soon. He'll begin getting America focused on the future and that'd be the quickest way to "heal the nation" sadly enough.

[derby378]

1. Obama cuts his own throat if he does that

There will be no pardon. We must see to that.

[blm]

11. No...he'd be cutting the last vein of open government that we have left as American citizens.

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[salguine]

53. So then the question becomes, "what do we do then?".

[niceypoo]

72. Prosecute those around Bush

Go for the blatant stuff. Firing attorneys, stealing money (Iraq contracts,) stuff like that.

If they get away with it, it will just be repeated.

[blm]

77. Exactly. If the principals get away with it again, they WILL be back. They didn't buy control of

broadcast newsmedia in the 80s and 90s for nothing. They know exactly how to control public perception IF another Dem administration allows them to manipulate the news cycles and the room to rehabilitate their legacy - ala Reagan and Bush1.

[Hieronymus]

38. Absolutely.. Ford had no career after pardoning Nixon.

[niceypoo]

73. Ford was the last republican president with any sanity

or fiscal responsibility

[cstanleytech]

68. Well then you had best get cracking on altering the constitution if you want to prevent it.

Now, if he does pardon him though hopefully he wont allow Bush to hide what he did and will release all the files possible about things like did Bush knowingly lie about the WMDs or not in Iraq, that way atleast the nation knows the real Bush for sure and Bush wont be able to whitewash his "legacy" by hiding stuff for decades until peoples memory fades.
I hope he doesnt pardon him thought but be he seems like the type of person who might do it if he feels that the greater good for the nation might be served by not dragging our nation further down with the fight that would occur over any attempt at charging bush or his gang in a court for the crimes most of us suspect they have commited.

[bdamomma]

2. I hope not, Bush is a criminal.

[mod mom]

75. Exactly. Are we a land of laws? No man is above the law and this criminal deserves justice

for the crimes he committed. The world is watching.

[NightWatcher]

3. there would be no need to pardon him if he doesnt push with investigations

I think he needs to MOVEON and just start trying to fix the mess. Leave georgie to grow old and die alone.

[saracat]

4. Bush hasn't been accused of anything and Obama has already said Bush has not committed any acts

that "rise to the level of impeachment".So what would he be "pardoning" him for? ( I don't agree with Obama on this BTW)

[elocs]

14. The premise that Obama will pardon Bush is totally unfounded,

and yes, what exactly would Obama be pardoning Bush for doing since he has not been convicted of anything?

[derby378]

5. Let Obama know that you do not want Bush pardoned

President-elect Barack Obama
Presidential Transition Office
Kluczynski Federal Building
230 S. Dearborn St., 38th Floor
Chicago, IL 60604

[Shiver]

15. Y'know, going to change.gov is faster...

:hi:

[derby378]

21. Do they really respond to e-mails on change.gov?

If so, that's good.

[sui generis]

6. hey what are the Mega million numbers?

My crystal ball went out when I was 8 after I fell down the stairs and bumped my head and now all I get is static.

:silly:

[Mira]

7. Did he tell you that? That's the only way I would ever give that credence.

Obama would not want to enrage the whole world.

It would be his first humongous mistake as I see it.

Though I don't think he will cheer-lead, I think he will not hinder the evaluation/examination/pursuit of Bush et al if others step up to the plate and do it.

[illuminaughty]

65. Nice to scroll down and see Mira with the common sense

response. He would lose respect and credibility from the rest of the world if he were to do that.
"The Whole World is Watching" and I think they have a much better view of Bush's offenses than most of us.

[SoFlaJet]

8. Who I hope he DOESN'T pardon

is Karl Rove-I still hope to see his pompous ass frog-marched

[Upton]

9. Pardon him from what?

We may think he's guilty of war crimes and who knows what else but I doubt if he'll be officially charged with anything.

[ProSense]

10. It's amazing the stuff people post.

So you believe that after Bush is convicted of crimes, Obama will pardon him? Doesn't the latter have to come before the former?

[w4rma]

12. Obama is not stupid, therefore he won't issuing a pardon to Bush, because that would be stupid. (nt)

[Enrique]

13. that would be too much drama

remember, he's no-Drama Obama.

[PBS Poll-435]

16. Really?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Pirate Smile]

17. And you know this because a little birdy told you? There is no way Obama is going to pardon Bush.

Obama intends to get reelected in 4 years.

[zbdent]

18. I prefer ...

Bush: "Hmm, this is weird ... it usually doesn't take this long to take Air Force One to Crawford ..."

Bush: "Where's my usual Texas reception? These people all look furren ..."

Bush: "Why did they cover my head, and attach jumper cables to my testicles?"

[peace frog]

19. Nope

Thanks but no thanks, doggone it, gosh darn it! *wink*

[iceman66]

20. He would never do that

Pardoning Bush would be admitting that Bush is a criminal and then refusing to do anything about it.

More likely, because Obama seems focused on the future and not out for revenge, he will just pretend that Bush is not a criminal and not push for any charges or serious investigations.

[ShortnFiery]

22. The mere notion sickens me.

:puke:

[balantz]

23. If he doesn't pursue the murderers he is either not the one calling the shots or he is one of them.

There is no sound reason or excuse to let them pass without a scratch after having lied, murdered and stolen their way through our highest offices.

Who here is comfortable with just letting them go their merry way? I most certainly am not!

[Beacool]

24. There won't be a need for a pardon.

Bush will lead a wealthy life of leasure in Dallas and his ranch, probably playing golf and trying to make some money by making speeches. Cheney will make huge sums as a consultant and the rest of the merry crew of former Bushites will also rake in the bucks working for think tanks and corporations.

Nothing to see here people, move on.....

:puke:

[Occam Bandage]

25. No, he will not.

Bush will not be prosecuted, and so there will be no pardon.

[Autonomy]

26. Pardon him from what?

Bush has not been charged with anything, nor will he be.

[Jennicut]

27. How can he pardon him when he currently is not under any investigation?

When he comes under investigation for specific charges then we can talk.

[endarkenment]

28. I will win a huge lottery!

Very soon now. And I don't even buy lottery tickets. This will happen.

[Dreamer Tatum]

29. For what? Farting in the OvalOffice? Is there a top secret indictment out there?

Can you be a little more specific?

[Uzybone]

30. Flame bait

you may not have meant it as flame bait. But when you post shit straight out of your ass without any knowledge, you are inviting flames.

[Blackhatjack]

31. Not a Chance! But this thread will get lots of hits -- n/t

[polichick]

32. That would be a dumb move for a Constitutional professor imo.

[AtomicKitten]

33. I don't think so.

[WI_DEM]

34. I'll bookmark this because I believe it won't happen and that this is just bullshit.

[MadBadger]

35. Thats kind of hard when Bush wont be charged with anything.

[Virginia Dare]

36. I can live with that as long as Rove and Cheney go down...n/t

[Orsino]

37. Nope.

With no investigation coming close to touching *, there's no need for Obama to intervene. And after his Inauguration, there'll be no need, anyway.

[onenote]

39. I'll take that bet.

Obama isn't going to issue a blanket pardon for Bush and Bush isn't going to be indicted for anything, so basically talking about this is a waste of time.

[marlakay]

40. Obama is smart enough to know his approval rating

would go down about 50 points instantly or more if he did that. Most people in america want Bush in jail. Every time they take a poll thats what it says. And Cheney even more so.

[Blue_In_AK]

41. I don't believe anything will happen to Bush himself.

Maybe some of his underlings will have to answer for their crimes (much like in the Nixon years), but Bush himself will skate.

I hope I'm wrong.

[DevonRex]

42. What?

And my cat, Cleopatra Cinnamon of Pina Madera, will be the first feline President of the United States of America.

[snake in the grass]

50. Well, she has my vote.

I would love to see a feline in the Oval Office!

[DevonRex]

58. Heh. So would I. My Cleo certainly runs my house well. She controls

me, my husband, 2 kids, the bird AND the dog. :)

[snake in the grass]

61. As it should be!

[Starry Messenger]

43. Pardon my slowness but has the fake cowboy been convicted of something??

I think you skipped a part.

[DevonRex]

46. And did I miss the entire investigation? Wow. BTW...

That other thread was also posted at the "other" site. You know, the poomah one. Then they moved it to a forum for members only.

[Starry Messenger]

47. Reading the writing on the walls over there I have a feeling...

there will be lots more stray kitties around again here. I've got my spray bottle handy...


I would LOVE for Bush to be investigated. But I doubt it will really happen. Hopefully we will get a lot of new legislation that will close most of the loopholes he and his cronies have been exploiting for years. :hi:

[Blarch]

54. There need not be a conviction....

for a pardon to happen.

I think you skipped that part.

[Starry Messenger]

56. ...

[Starry Messenger]

60. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon#United_States

[sufrommich]

44. Pardon him from what? Did I miss something?

[LaydeeBug]

45. Hon, this is bullshit, plain and simple. nt

[stillcool]

48. Pardon him for what?

What did I miss?

[Bucky]

49. For what offense? Pardoned over what indictment?

You're getting closer to reality, but if you think Bush is at any risk of being prosecuted for jack squat, you've not quite landed on planet Earth yet.

[Forkboy]

51. No need for a pardon as Bush will never be charged with anything.

[onehandle]

52. Mmmmmaybe. But probably not since Bush will get off scot-free. nt

[Sex Pistol]

55. Forgive me, I must have missed it. Have there been charges?

[Matariki]

57. And you know this how?

[book_worm]

59. interesting how the OP posts this load of crap and then abandons the thread.

[HughMoran]

62. After he bumps into him...

This is a stupid thread which assumes Bush has something to be pardoned for. Let's charge him with something before we go handing out pardons!!

[onenote]

63. I see that the OP has never reappeared -- classic hit and run bs

[Lil Missy]

64. And I'm the Virgin Mary. n/t

[Maru Kitteh]

66. Bush has to be formally charged with something first. Good gawd.

Although purely flamebait, this kind of garbage does serve useful in the way that it gives the sane some clues as to who they might like to put on their ignore list.

[WritersBlock]

67. Festering wounds need cleaning before they'll ever heal. If we don't hold Bush, Cheney, and the rest

of the neocon bastards accountable for what they have done in our name, then quite frankly, we simply don't have a nation left worth healing anymore.

[myrna minx]

69. And the point of this hit and run is for...?

I believe Obama is really DB Cooper, since we're wildly speculating, with no basis of fact. Yep.

[myrna minx]

70. And the point of this hit and run is for...?

I believe Obama is really DB Cooper, since we're wildly speculating, with no basis of fact. Yep.

[bertman]

71. Please don't post shit like this. Just the thought of that is making me physically ill.

[trayfoot]

74. I don't think so......

Ford ruined his political career when he pardoned Nixon. I don't believe Obama will make that fatal mistake.

[Deep13]

76. Make something up. State it as an established fact. nt