I will be sad if Candidate # 5 is Jesse Jackson, Jr.

[TeamJordan23]

The guy is smart and has a lot of potential (and also backed Obama early). That would be sad if he threw away his political future all for this.

[maddowfan]

1. Are You Freaking Kidding Me?

Jessie Jackson Jr. needs to go away!

[ecstatic]

5. Why?

:shrug:

[maddowfan]

9. Uh, Hillary Clinton Didn't Cry For Hurricane Katrina Victims?

He's toast.

[ecstatic]

13. She didn't. At least not publicly like she did in NH. Next...? nt

ET correct spelling of publicly :rofl:

[maddowfan]

14. That Is The Sickest Comment A Person Could Make! We Don't Need Someone Like That

That is not something you go public and say about somebody, especially a fellow Democrat. He was the spokesperson for Obama's campaign. It was very bad PR. He reminds me a lot of his father. "Cut off his balls!" Loose cannon.

[rvablue]

28. "Cut off his balls" a comment he publicly denounced his father for saying! n/t

[Kahuna]

19. That's the reason? I thought you had something on him that was unethical..

You just don't like him because it's personal. :eyes:

[maddowfan]

26. Personal? As In Saying Something About A Member Of My Party That's Outrageous?

Then yes, it's personal.

[theoldman]

8. If I remember correctly, Jessie Jackson Jr. was one of the most

intelligent speakers during the Democrat Convention. He would make an excellent Senator.

[DJ13]

2. Dont be sad

Its better to find out now what people are really like than after they've obtained power, isnt it?

[question everything]

3. I just opened this forum

what are you talking about? I gather it is about the IL governor, but what is the ref. to #5?

Thanks

[TeamJordan23]

7. Candidate # 5 apparently gave something upfront ($$) or was going to give something upfront

according to the complaint.

[goodhue]

12. actually complaint quotes Blago as saying 5 might get him some money upfront, maybe

but in any event candidate 5 promised to help raise money for Blago's re-election (but how damning is that, really?)

see page 72 . . .
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/acrobat/2008-12/43789434.pdf

[Renew Deal]

18. Probably pretty damning.

Because #5 probably knew it was a quid pro-quo.

[goodhue]

25. Well actually if you read paragraph 112, it is not candidate 5 directly who made any promises

Rather an emissary, and then Blago trying to shake down Individual D with candidate 5 as leverage.

[question everything]

24. Thanks for the link

And from the Chicago Tribune. They must be happy, especially after yesterday.

[ecstatic]

4. He might have been giving Blago rope to hang himself

I don't think Jesse Jackson Jr would be stupid enough to go along with it.

[SuperTrouper]

11. Wanna bet?

[ecstatic]

15. As a matter of fact, I do. JJ Jr. stood up to his own father

when he was smearing Obama. I will give him the benefit of the doubt. I don't automatically assume the black guy is guilty.

[SuperTrouper]

16. No one is talking race here, character matters no matter if you're black, white, brown etc

[ecstatic]

23. I apologize for the way that came out, I'm just saying

I don't think JJ Jr. is guilty of anything at this time. I think if anything, he was wearing a wire to catch the rogue Gov.

[maddowfan]

17. So, It's A Race Issue?

I'm so surprised now.

[SuperTrouper]

21. No

[ecstatic]

22. No it's not a race issue... I'm just not as quick as some of you

to point the finger.

[Occam Bandage]

6. I would too, but I wouldn't really be surprised.

Part of Chicago politics is recognizing that your heroes just might be secretly corrupt as hell.

[goodhue]

10. I think he may indeed be 5, but not clear his future would be over

Granted the stuff on page 72 of the complaint is not helpful to candidate 5.

[democrattotheend]

20. I thought candidate 5 was Valerie Jarrett, and she refused to pay for the seat

Or maybe I am getting confused. Are any of the potential replacements accused of agreeing to Blago's terms? I thought Blago is the only one in trouble so far.

[goodhue]

27. Jarret is candidate 1, I believe

Regarding candidate 5 possibly paying to play, read pages 71 to 73 of complaint . . .
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/acrobat/2008-12/43789434.pdf

Just a lot of talk from Blago really, but clearly he felt candidate 5's folks promised to help fundraise for Blago's re-election, but Blago does not trust 5 so wants to shake down Individual D for money upfront.

[goodhue]

29. Now some speculation that 5 is Art Turner, not JJJ

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=12&year=2008&base_name=a_guide_to_the_candidates

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/Sun_Times_columnist.html?showall