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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:44 PM
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A Great Couple Months for Illinois Democrats!

First, we get Obama elected president. Then we get rid of Governor Albatross. The resignation/impeachment of Blagojevich will finally let Democrats get down to the work of running this state instead of engaging in fights with a petty governor.

We are supposed to be the Party that makes government work for the people Instead, one individual Democrat in the Governor's Mansion has succeeded in bringing the entire structure to a grinding halt time and time again.

This is the best thing that could have happened to us in Illinois. I'm having a Miracle on Ravenswood Manor moment here.

Merry Christmas, Illinois Democrats!

Fitzmas came early. And I am one Illinois Democrat who couldn't be happier.


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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:46 PM
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1. Really? My Iowa friends are already asking
"What the fuck is wrong with Illinois?!" So, I should tell 'em it's all good?
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:58 PM
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3. You tell 'em whatever you feel like.

But for Illinois Democrats getting rid of this fucker is a great thing.

Sure, at first I was disappointed. I thought he was a jerk, but an honest one. All the hard evidence to date pointed to Republicans. And all the accusations concerning Blagojevich came from Republicans. It seemed absurd to take them on their word about a Democrat.

But without this we'd still be stuck with a dysfuntional state government. As stated in the OP, this gives us a chance to actually do our job.


If you are seriously looking for something to tell your friends in Iowa, tell them what I'm telling my friends and family where I grew up in southern Indiana, "consider yourselves lucky you don't have feds crawling all over your state like Illinois does."

Cause there are two kinds of voters in southern Indiana. Those who believe their elected officials are basically honest folks. And those who know the truth. A lot of my family knows the truth.

The unwillingness of rural people to believe anything bad about their neighbors is what makes corruption in those regions so facile. Many of them really do believe that they are better than those big city folks.


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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:07 PM
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9. Of course, they really ARE their neighbors. When I was in Iowa,
the governor was from a small town not far from where I grew up. He lived in the Governor's Mansion in the center of the state.

Politicians from the part of Illinois where I live have ZERO chance of being elected to statewide office. And politicians from Chicago--like this corrupt governor--neither know nor care about anything outside Chicago. Hell, this asshole wouldn't even live in the governor's mansion because it isn't in Chicago.

In Iowa, I knew my US Congressman, my state Senator, and the Secretary of Agriculture personally. Not so here (hell, my US Congressman lives in Guatemala!).

There is much more corruption in Illinois than in other states. Because there is less accountability. If the feds are the only people holding these creeps accountable, I'll take it.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:19 PM
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11. I strongly believe you are 100% wrong.

I believe there is more corruption in other states than in Illinois because there is more accountability in Illinois. Iowa and Indiana don't have the feds camped out there permanently providing that accountability. Illinois does.

Reminder: Nixon stopped the 1960 recount because they found more vote tampering downstate than in Chicago.

And the biggest problem Chicago politicians have winning statewide officesthat people downstate neither know nor care about anything inside Chicago. They think they are better than them city folks.


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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:25 PM
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12. Au contraire. The disdain comes from Chicago downstate.
Remember, we have a governor who believed he was too good to move downstate and live in the governor's mansion. I lived in Chicago and listened to downstaters being referred to as hicks. It's Chicagoans who hold rural Illinois in disdain, not the other way around.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:50 PM
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2. Don't start popping open the champaign just yet
Blago hasn't resigned yet. Sometimes they go quickly, like Elliot Spitzer did. Others go kicking and screaming, like William Jefferson. He may wind up bringing some people down with him. There is also the danger that he could appoint a Senator before he is done, making for a rather vulnerable incumbent in 2010.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:02 PM
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5. State House Chair of the Judiciary Committee has said he'll impeach if Blago don't go.

And he's not only a Democrat, but he's the Democrat who represents Blago's very own district!

They will try to talk him into doing the right thing. But if he doesn't, they'll impeach him. And the US Senate will not accept any appointment he makes with Illinois Democrats asking them not to.


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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:07 PM
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8. In order to make an appointment, however, you must find a party to accept
with the exception of crack pot Alan Keyes, I don't think there is a politician on earth that would want to go into the Senate with this stank all over them......none of the other 49 would go within 100 feet of him/her.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:01 PM
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4. One year found horse crap under the Xmas tree
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:02 PM
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6. One year we elected a Democratic governor.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 05:03 PM by ieoeja

And found we had gotten horse crap.

:party:


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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:05 PM
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7. Pat Quinn will be a good Governor.
There hasn't been a particle, a hint of scandal attached to the Lieutenant Governor in the years he's served the people of Illinois.
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 05:15 PM
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10. It's tough to be a FISH
In 2008
Badgers 27
Illini 17

Packers 37
Da Bears 3
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