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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:35 PM Original message |
Caroline Kennedy Has What It Takes |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. we have absolutely no idea what kind of candidate or campaigner she'd make. |
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galaxy21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Hey, her dad was JFK! That's all the qualifications she needs! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
40. All of what you say would be damning if we imagined that CK is power hungry |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
89. Caroline isn't power-hungry and she isn't cashing in on her name, |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Oh, I think we can expect good things, perhaps even great things, from her. |
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galaxy21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. You know Freepers go on about Palin's 'presence' and 'charisma' |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Well, Caroline doesn't really have that "great personality" as it was applied to Palin. |
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galaxy21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. "I don't really know why you say others are more qualified. How do you know?" |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Well, that argument was used against Obama... |
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galaxy21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Barack actually ran a campaign though, |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. It is too bad that she didn't but she has done campaigning for him and for Kerry. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. She campaigned actively for Obama. How can you say you have no idea |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. She also campaigned with ChelseaC and the Kerry daughters for Kerry. nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Oh hell, after Jebbie and George P. Bush serve they can hand the reins over to Princess Chelsea? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You're just a troll. nt |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. If she's a bad campaigner/candidate, she'll lose in the primary to a good one |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. I agree. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. I agree that what makes a good senator is not neccessarily |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. That was a movie, Frenchie. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I know that it was a movie....... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Senator Patty Murray, who campaigned as "the mom in tennis shoes" has been |
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Billy Shears (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. In Real Life, Caroline Kennedy can be President in 2016 if she wants to |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. OMFG! HRC maybe - but C. Kennedy doesn't have the chops. Not "fantasy" = "delusional." |
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Billy Shears (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
83. Caroline will beat HRC in the Primary if it comes to that |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. That's Capra. And it was a movie. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. You are right, as usual! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. The two are NOT mutually exclusive. Being IMMORAL and INEXPERIENCED is a "no go" for my vote unless |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. Might know.. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Always looks that way, eh? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. You mean |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Oy, I have NC turning blue on my mind. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. I see no Obama/Clinton divide on this issue. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 06:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
28. She had been |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
78. Thanks for the reminder. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
35. I'm against her appointment and I supported Obama long before |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
51. I recall many primary clashes with you over Obama while you still defended all things Hillary |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. She has not ever run a campaign. She has not ever been involved in policy. |
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galaxy21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I think if Caroline gets appointed, there are going to be a lot of pissed off politicians in NY |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Pissed-off because they have paid their dues and are more qualified than Political Royalty that ... |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Exactly!! |
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Billy Shears (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
84. pissed off because they want no competition for HRC in 2016 |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. were they pissed off when HRC decided to run for Senate from NY? |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Hillary EARNED her seat. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. somebody's gonna be pissed no matter who is chosen and they can challenge her in the primary |
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Billy Shears (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
85. but was she really a New Yorker?? |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Well we knew Moynihan was unelectable..... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Which is why we run the races. nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I thought D'Amato was! And again in '92...nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. uh, Moynihan RAN. He was not APPOINTED. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. but the point is that Caroline K would have to run in two years as well |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. Oh stop it! The political royals will not rescue us "common folk." |
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galaxy21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Camelot was never a fairy tale |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Yeah, LBJ just LIED us into a war with N. Vietnam. He's a real peach = MYTH too. eom |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. The term "Camelot" wasn't even coined to describe |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
29. She also probably has the endorsement of PE Obama. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Obama is too wise to endorse her for an appointment |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Maybe not officially but cleary she is on his "good" side. |
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SuperTrouper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. And paterson is listening...he will appoint her, mark my words. |
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Billy Shears (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
86. you know that Obama is behind her appointment. He is preparing for 8 years from now |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
41. What I see is that her main qualification is being a Kennedy. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Hillary's main qualification for running for the Senate was being a carpetbagging Clinton. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Clinton hating crap. What a shocker from you |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Just the facts, ma'am... sorry if that disturbs someone from Vermont. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #48 |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Bobby Kennedy WASN'T a Carpetbagger!!!!!! |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Didn't live in NY very much. nt |
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SuperTrouper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. However, Hillary turned out to be a fantastic Senator for NY; she is well liked in GOP Upstate |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #49 |
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Billy Shears (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
87. why is it that the GOP like the Clintons? ... I wonder |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. I agree that Hillary would not have been in the running |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. It was handed to her by NYDems because Nita Lowrey could not be Rudy. HRC could and did. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Yes, but people voted for her. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Very true. The Dem Party's instincts were correct. So, no Senator Rudy. nt |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. and if Caroline gets the appointment its going to be for much the same reason |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. I think NYS is bluer now, but I generally agree with you. She's their best bet. nt |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. and if Hillary hadn't been HiIlary, the suggestion of handing her the nomination on a platter |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Sigh, I keep repeating myself. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. someone is going to be appointed, you get that right? |
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Billy Shears (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
88. don't be scared. at least Caroline is a New Yorker. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. The Dem nod for senate was handed to Eleanor R on a platter in 1948. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
77. New Yorkers love Caroline and she will win in landslides in both 2010 and 2012. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Get counselling. This isn't about Hillary hate. nt |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Clark is a lost cause. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. That's the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it? |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Touche, my friend, touche.......... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Heh heh... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
74. And did I tell you that I like the idea of Chris Matthews for PA Senate 2010? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. I supported Hillary getting the NY senate seat, but she didn't work at all to get the nomination |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. There is no nomination there is no election for TWO YEARS!!! |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. right. And getting appointed is no guarantee of getting nominated |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
54. K and R Caroline is up to it! |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
57. we could run a blue pig in New York and win the senate |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. How did D'Amato get elected and keep getting re-elected? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
82. a variety of reasons, including weak opponents and thrid party candidates |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
79. I think she'd be a great pick. |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
95. I don't live in NY and I would donate to her campaign |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
96. I like Caroline, a lot, but that doesn't mean I think |
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