Caroline worked HARD for the American Ballet Theater - BREAKING MSNBC!

[MoonRiver]

That clinches it! I was waiting for some hard evidence of her qualification for the NY Senate seat. Now I have it! :woohoo:

[saltpoint]

1. "Art for Art's sake," E. M. Forster asked, "I should say so, and never more

than now."

I would argue that philanthropic support for the arts is a smashingly convincing argument in favor of a Senate appointment.

Good for Caroline.

[freespirit5]

2. She has more qualifications than Hillary did

nt

[MoonRiver]

3. No, wrong.

But Hillary actually FOUGHT FOR AND WON her seat. She was not awarded it on a silver platter.

[tekisui]

17. If Caroline does get this seat, she will have to win the next election.

[MoonRiver]

18. true

[w4rma]

48. At least Caroline lives in the state. (nt)

[emilyg]

77. Bingo.

[Maven]

15. uhhhhhhhhh...no.

[Inuca]

4. AMERICAN ballet

the wonderful company made great by Balanchine. At least have some idea what you snark about.

[MoonRiver]

8. Changed. Thanks!

I thought the CK spokesperson said Metropolitan.

[elleng]

12. 'scuse, but

the New York City Ballet was made great by Balanchine!

[Inuca]

45. An emabarassed

yes, you are right :blush:. I should not read the boards and especially reply while working :-).

[leftynyc]

5. What ballet company is that?

I go all the time and I never heard of them. Are they from upstate?

[elleng]

9. You go WHERE all the time?

To have never heard of the American Ballet Theater!

http://www.abt.org/

[leftynyc]

75. She must have edited that

It was not ABT when this thread started.

[Inuca]

10. Lincoln center, NYC n/t

[leftynyc]

76. Again - she must have changed that

ABT and the New York City ballet are both at Lincoln Center. Not whatever started this thread. The title was edited.

[elleng]

6. Caroline Kennedy does and has done public service work:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=115553&title=caroline-kennedy

[saltpoint]

7. Nietschze said, "I would only believe in a god who knows how to dance."

[Inuca]

13. Great quote n/t

[endarkenment]

11. You are working hard at something too, but what?

Kennedy currently serves as a member of the national board of directors for the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the vice-chair for the Fund for Public Schools in New York City, chief executive for the New York City Department of Education Office of Strategic Partnerships and still serves as an honorary chairman of the American Ballet Theatre.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/15/bio-caroline-kennedy/

[elleng]

14. THANKS!

!!!

[saltpoint]

16. How delightfully intimidating it would be for some philistine yahoo

like Jim Inhofe to try and have a conversation with Senator Caroline Kennedy on the arts.

I'd pay to hear it.

[blm]

19. She didn't work hard to protect Dubai and Saudi royals on their illegal BCCI dealings, did she?

Or bank TENS of MILLIONS for being their advocate in the US, did she?

[peace frog]

26. Tsk tsk, there you go again

injecting reality into someone's dearly held fantasy. Not that actual facts will shake that fantasy in any way. :evilgrin:

[MoonRiver]

37. President Elect Obama seems to disagree with you both.

:rofl:

[peace frog]

43. The points blm raised are true

Ridiculous to argue with facts. Regardless, you, I and PE Obama think CKS is a fine choice for Senator from NY.

[EFerrari]

47. And he and Joe Biden disagree with you about Caroline Kennedy.

lol

[blm]

55. So far, this nation hasn't HAD a Truth Commission, has yet? Would that make Clinton supporters

happy or uncomfortable? After all, how many Americans OR even lawmakers are aware of those matters re Dubai-Saudi royals and BCCI and Bushes and Clintons, anyway?

[BootinUp]

72. lol, you must be lost, this is not a William J. Clinton thread. nt

[dionysus]

20. what do you do for an encore, chappaquiddick jokes?

how things over on "the hill"? i hear your site traffic dropped off quite a bit...

:rofl:

[Marrah_G]

21. Your are on one big flame throwing spree today

Your posts on this matter have been juvenile at best. Nothing more then throwing out nasty insults and waiting for all the attention you know you will get for it.

Since you have nothing to contribute besides shit stirring- welcome to ignore.

[Bluenorthwest]

22. Any friend of ABT's is a friend of mine

ABT is a jewel of American arts. I know many people who have benefited from their work, including myself in a round about way. I've also seen dancing by that company that is on the very short 'astonishing' list.
And arts fundraising is not a walk in the park for anyone. I'll gladly give her credit and kudos for that.

[MoonRiver]

23. Like I said, I was waiting for solid evidence of her political acumen and expertise.

And there it is! Nobody here takes me seriously, though. :cry:

[last1standing]

24. Too bad you didn't put this much energy into defeating Chambliss a couple of weeks ago.

But I suppose tearing down Democrats is more fun. :shrug:

[MoonRiver]

25. Huh?

I don't live anywhere near Chambliss! :wtf:

[last1standing]

30. Do you live anywhere near Kennedy?

And should we even believe you if you say you do?

You're repeatedly posting the same bullshit, clogging up the board, about how much you hate Kennedy. One or even two threads would have been enough - better yet, you could have posted your hatred within one of the many other anti-Kennedy threads going. You could have even posted it in a pro-Kennedy thread.

If you really live in New York - a question I asked you in a different thread that you ignored - then email Paterson and tell him how much you hate the woman. Start a petition demanding she not be appointed. Rent a billboard proclaiming that she's the anti-Christ. I really don't care. You're just becoming annoying at DU.

[MoonRiver]

34. Do I live anywhere near Kennedy? Kennedy what or who?

I don't think I live anywhere near a Kennedy, but could be wrong of course. Guess I need to check the phone book in my small Northwest town. :shrug:

[last1standing]

41. Then I go back to my original point. Too back you didn't put this much effort into defeating Saxby.

All these threads, all the time and energy, all the indignity and furor and what are you doing? You're spending your time trashing a Democrat who is looking to be appointed as senator from a different state.

You didn't throw this energy into defeating Chambliss, but you're hellbent on taking down Kennedy. Why? Neither is from your state and certainly it would be better to have Caroline Kennedy in the senate than Saxby Chambliss. There was even a greater chance at helping take down Chambliss since it was a run-off, not an appointment.

I'm going to suggest that your priorities are screwed up.

[MoonRiver]

49. You can suggest whatever you wish.

And I can state my opinion. No?

[last1standing]

57. We're both free to state our opinions. Its my opinion that you are trying to disrupt this forum.

You have posted repeated threads denigrating Caroline Kennedy, a Democrat, when you have no stake in the result of Gov. Paterson's decision. It smacks of some sort of rehash from the Obama/Hillary wars and seems very petty.

And again, if this isn't about some sort of grudge, why didn't I see your posts about defeating Chambliss, a repub, when there was an actual race going on? If you feel such a need to interfere in another state's senate race, why is Caroline Kennedy worse than a repub?

[MoonRiver]

59. I'm far from the only one who is deriding the possible selection of Caroline Kennedy.

But of course that's irrelevant to your bias.

[last1standing]

61. I never said you were. I don't even understand what that has to do with anything.

My only bias here is that I'm sick of having to pick through a hundred personal grudge posts against Obama/Kennedy to read something that is actually important. Since you are one of the major perpetrators spamming the board with your Hate Kennedy threads, I called you out on it.

Believe me, we all understand. You want to get even with everyone on the board who didn't agree with you during the Obama/Hillary wars. You've found what you feel to be an acceptable surrogate and now you're going to town.

I'm suggesting that you take your personal vendettas offline or at least to PM. That way the rest of us aren't disrupted by your anger and resentment.

[Alexander]

69. No, other bitter Clinton supporters are doing it too.

I guess you got lonely at the other sites you visit.

[racaulk]

60. +1

Thank you!!!

:applause:

[last1standing]

63. You know, I don't even care if Kennedy is appointed.

It's really none of my business since I'm not from New York. But it's none of MyPetRock's business, either, and I'm just sick of having to wade through all these anti/pro Kennedy threads when its such a non-issue.

In fact, I find the purposeful disruption of the forum by people like this to be more of an issue than who is chosen by Gov. Paterson.

[dionysus]

67. hint: *cough*endorsed obama*cough*

[Starbucks Anarchist]

27. She lacks pressure under Bosnian sniper fire.

[MoonRiver]

28. The interesting thing is that P-E Obama believes Hillary is exactly the correct person

for SoS. If he was as alarmed as you about her Bosnia statement, I doubt he would have appointed her to be his world wide ambassador.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

31. I'm not alarmed at her, I'm alarmed at you.

The fact that you complain about Caroline being handed a Senate seat when Hillary, despite her hard work, etc., also had the same massive built-in advantage via her last name, is hilarious.

If she was "Hillary Smith," nobody would have given her the time of day, regardless of her qualifications.

[MoonRiver]

32. Hillary had a husband, who had to raise himself up by his bootstraps.

Caroline has a dynasty of at least 50 decades behind her. It is patently absurd to compare the two situations in terms of privilege. Hillary was raised in a middle class family, and worked for everything she had. She also, btw, had to actually campaign for her NY Senate seat. It was not, contrary to Clinton hater revisionist history, handed to her.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

35. Nobody knew who Hillary was until Bill's WH run.

Outside of Arkansas, that is.

And I just said that Hillary did work hard to win, but yes, her last name did give her an enormous advantage, just as it does with Caroline.

And Hillary's middle-class upbringing has nothing to do with the argument, and neither does Bill's working-class background.

[MoonRiver]

36. She had to work for her Senate seat. It wasn't appointed to her based on a dynastic name.

nuff said

[Starbucks Anarchist]

38. Are you blind?

I keep saying she did work hard, BUT her name did give her a huge advantage. Do you think Nita Lowey would have stepped aside for "Hillary Smith"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7982881&mesg_id=7984330

The first hint that Mrs Clinton's four months of cogitation were at an end came early yesterday afternoon when Nita Lowey, the New York Congresswoman who had planned to run for the Senate, announced that she would run for re-election to the House instead. Mrs Clinton had promised that she would talk to Ms Lowey before making her intentions known. In the event, Ms Lowey called her to clear her way. A spokesman for Ms Lowey said she had told Mrs Clinton that she had decided to seek re-election to the House of Representatives in 2000 because "it was clear to her that the First Lady was running". The statement said that "she wished the First Lady well and would support her candidacy and do everything she could to help elect her to the Senate".

[Alexander]

68. Willfully so.

[CTyankee]

42. How do you feel about Al Franken's candidacy?

n/t

[karynnj]

56. 50 decades? Have you read even one book on the Kennedys?

50 decades is 500 years. Her grandfather was a self made man.

HRC WAS given the Democratic nomination for the Senate seat and then had to beat Rick Lazio, after Guilliani dropped out.

ANYONE who gets the seat this time will be nominated.

[dionysus]

66. the kennedies have been in politics for 500 years? the things you learn!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Renew Deal]

40. 100% Correct

I find this all hilarious.

[Name removed]

29. Deleted message

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[Lucky 13]

79. !

:rofl:

[sohndrsmith]

33. surely you jest... Wasn't it Joffrey? ; ) n/t

[Renew Deal]

39. I find your "qualifications" BS ironic considering you supported Hillary.

[MoonRiver]

44. What do you think about the fact that I voted for Obama?

Is that also a "disqualifier?"

[Renew Deal]

53. I don't think anything of it.

But it makes no sense that a Hillary supporter would scream about qualifications when Hillary got the Senate seat in very similar fashion.

[MoonRiver]

62. SIMILAR????

Hillary campaigned for and WON the seat, two times. How is that similar to be appointed the seat after simply asking for it?

[Alexander]

70. All other Democrats stepped aside for Hillary and she ran against a nobody.

The New York Senate seat was handed to her, and typing in ALL CAPS doesn't change that fact.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

71. It's in this link you keep ignoring:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19990604/ai_n14230372

The first hint that Mrs Clinton's four months of cogitation were at an end came early yesterday afternoon when Nita Lowey, the New York Congresswoman who had planned to run for the Senate, announced that she would run for re-election to the House instead. Mrs Clinton had promised that she would talk to Ms Lowey before making her intentions known. In the event, Ms Lowey called her to clear her way. A spokesman for Ms Lowey said she had told Mrs Clinton that she had decided to seek re-election to the House of Representatives in 2000 because "it was clear to her that the First Lady was running". The statement said that "she wished the First Lady well and would support her candidacy and do everything she could to help elect her to the Senate".

So Nita Lowey had to step aside for Hillary. Despite Hillary working for the votes, it doesn't change the fact that had her last name not been Clinton, she would not have been granted this access.

[Renew Deal]

78. She had all other contenders step aside...

She moved to the state. She moved to a state with a 2 million Democratic to Republican voter advantage. And she ran against an incompetent republican idiot. The only difference between them right now (besides carpetbagging) is that Caroline hasn't run against the standard puke neanderthal.

[scheming daemons]

64. By your own admission in another thread, your vote was more "anti-Palin" than "pro-Obama"

You are slightly less anti-Obama than you are anti-Republican.


That's not all that admirable, frankly.

[iamthebandfanman]

50. ive NEVER voted for her

and never would probably now...

and i agree with the OP...

[Jennicut]

46. How dare you be anti-ballet?!!??!!?!?!

[AspenRose]

51. Again?

This is growing tiresome.

[MoonRiver]

52. But you kicked nonetheless!

Thanks! :hi:

[Name removed]

54. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[MoonRiver]

58. I took note.

[thewiseguy]

65. Mods, please enough of these disruptive posts.

Enough with the spam and the bullshit.

[rvablue]

73. I second that emotion wiseguy.......n/t

[CakeGrrl]

74. Wow. Someone's taking this whole thing VERY hard.

:rofl:

Maybe Obama should send some of his Secret Service protection her way...