Millions of people are unemployed and/or at risk of losing their homes.

[JamesA1102]

The American Auto industry is about to go under throwing even more millions of people out of work. Our financial system is crumbling. We still have troops risking their lives in two foreign countries. Global warming is getting worse. The Bush administration is pushing through many last minute executive orders to cut environmental and other protections.

Yet, the right can only talk about Blago and imagined ties to Obama while planning to resurrect Mark Rich and Elian Gonzalez.

And all the left can talk about is Rick Warren, Caroline Kennedy and who they don't like in Obama's cabinet.

There are serious problems in this country that need to addressed. Isn't everything else just petty silliness?

[valerief]

1. Hey, I voted for "Economic recovery and Jobs" as the first choice in the MoveOn survey.

:hi:

[tabbycat31]

33. ditto n/t

[leftstreet]

2. They just need to read The Purpose Driven Life

Maybe they'll hand them out in DC

[Fleshdancer]

3. but most of us already agree on the first few items you mentioned

Debating the stuff we disagree about is far more fun on a discussion board. :shrug:

Then again, I don't think the Rick Warren thing is silly.

[JamesA1102]

9. Compare to the massive problems we face

it is very silly.

[Fleshdancer]

19. I see it as a civil rights issue

but there's nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.

[JamesA1102]

23. You can agree to disagree while still being inclusive

and not going ballistic just because Warren is saying a prayer at the inauguration. With all the serious problems we face it does seem rather silly.

[Fleshdancer]

29. where am I going ballistic?

:shrug:

[JamesA1102]

32. Not you but others. NT

[uponit7771]

4. Good perspective

[yardwork]

5. Do you think that some of those things might be connected?

What role has the religious right played in causing the problems you cite? Is it wise to continue to suck up to the religious right?

[JamesA1102]

8. The Religious Right caused the Mortage crisis?

Please explain.

[Bjorn Against]

10. They did mobilize to put Bush in office did they not?

[JamesA1102]

16. So then why do you think it is a bad idea for Obama

to reach out to them? One of the reasons they voted for Bush is that they felt Dems turned their back on them and their concerns. So isn't it a good thing for Obama to be more inclusive of them.

[Bjorn Against]

24. Have you ever looked at the agenda of the religious right?

When I look at what the religious right is trying to do to this country, then I would hope that the Dems would turn their backs on them and their concerns. Sorry but I don't want to live in a theocratic state where women are in the kitchen, gays are in the closet, and our military is trying to bring about the rapture. I don't have any desire to be more inclusive of an agenda of hate and fear.

[JamesA1102]

27. You're painting everyone on the religious right with the same brush

That as unfair as how the Rushes and O'Reillys of the world try to paint everyone on the left as radical.

And at a time when our country faces such serious problems shouldn't we come together as one people and solve these problems for the good of all.

[LostinVA]

28. The Religious Right is the Religious Right -- period

[yardwork]

40. ???? The religious right is a single voting bloc with one agenda.

[Sebastian Doyle]

15. No, 28 years of trickle down corporatist middle class destroying bullshit caused the mortgage crisis

:puke:

[JamesA1102]

18. Yup. It all started with Reagan. nt

[yardwork]

39. And who put Reagan in office? The religious right.

[sarcasmo]

43. Nail meet Ronnie Raygun, bingo we have a winner.

[Neshanic]

6. I don't care. Why should I? Those are from choices. You know, everyone makes their own bed.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

7. If you are serious,

then you don't belong on a liberal website. Liberals care about ordinary people and workers who are screwed by corporations.

[leftstreet]

14. I'm pretty sure it was snark

You know, 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps'

[Celeborn Skywalker]

17. I was thinking it might be.

Had to be sure, though, ha ha.

[Neshanic]

21. Have GM toady speak about bright shiny future at Obama/Warren fest.

Warren will get you all straight.

Pun intended.

[Zynx]

20. The social consequences of that are not palatable.

Since when did Democrats become a bunch of free marketeers?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

31. Do you actually have anything constructive to say?

Anything?

[Pale Blue Dot]

11. Yes! Because we can only focus on one issue!

We're not smart enough to tackle two issues at once!

[QC]

13. True. No multitasking here! n/t

[QC]

12. I have tenure. Therefore, unemployment is not a serious issue,

and I wish that all these people would quit whining about losing their jobs.

:sarcasm:

[rubberducky]

22. I just found out today I`m at the end of the road...... forclosure starts in Jan.

I feel so lost and unsure of what to expect next. I`m not alone here in MI, but it`s still very scarry. Do I care about the politics of the moment?? I did, but it has taken a back burner for the near future. You worry about what you have to worry about. You do what you can with what you have to survive. Blago, Caroline, warren, etc., they are only a moment in time that will pass and somehow we will survive to go on to another day. Perspective, my friends!

[truedelphi]

26. Small truly meant hug to you

What an awful holiday this is for so many. I cannot imagine losing a home that was mine all mine, with all the hard work and deicisions taht go into owning a home.

Where do people go if they lose their home??

It would be awful for me and M too but we already accept so much of what the bad new Ameruka is about. I got a job one week before the economy tanked; and in a way it was no surprise there.

[rubberducky]

36. Thank you, I truelly needed that!

We have loved our home, we remodeled her with our own hands, but I lost my job and she is not happy with one paycheck to support her. We are trying to purchase a mobile home. Life goes on and so will we, but, I have never been so terrified in my life.

[Critters2]

25. I can worry about a multitude of issues at any one time.

I had no idea what a rare skill this is!

[Mike 03]

30. I wish I had your skill. All I feel is "overwhelmed" NT

[Critters2]

37. It comes from years of professional experience. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

34. Don't forget that cardboard cutout of Hillary.

That's very important.

[polichick]

35. NONE of these problems will be solved on a message board...

Discussion is what it's all about here. If people don't like a topic, they can skip that thread ~ and/or start threads on subjects they're interested in.

[mwei924]

38. Oh, but those issues actually require "thinking"..

Petty issues are fun and they don't hurt your brain!

[mondo joe]

42. Among the privileged, the civil rights of others may seem petty.

But in any event, no posts on DU will change unemployment or foreclosures.

[mondo joe]

41. Did you think posting on DU would give people jobs or homes? If so, that is fucking

stupid.

[AllentownJake]

44. Yeah and if Barack wasn't stupid and put a lightining rod out there

It would be one less thing.