Most excellent comment at Huffington Post about Obama and Warren

[IndianaGreen]

Comment by BalancedEgg:

This is excellent. By picking Warren and thereby shining the bright lights of the media on Mr. Warren and his nonsensical and arrogant presumption of superiority to gay people, Mr. Obama has brought about the perfect storm. Regardless of the drama of this moment, the potential for a GLBT boycott of the Inaugural festival and the fuel on the fire of the Prop 8 debacle, the genie is out of the bottle. This decision, though wrapped in the swaddling of "inclusion", "agreeing to disagree", "coming to the table" and all the other political cliches, has contained within it, the subsequent recognition that Mr. Obama can only intellectualize discrimination but has not exactly lived it. Too young to be scarred by Jim Crowe, too smart to be resigned to the ghetto, too Kenyan to be of slave lineage and too white to fall through the cracks, Mr. Obama has no real life understanding of the gay American experience of full throttle societal rejection. The question now is, after this kind of fire storm, is he prepared to look at his own homosuperiority to which Mr. Warren is merely the mirror.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/18/rick-warren-i-dont-hate-g_n_152157.html

[Jackeens]

1. Obama hasn't lived discrimination? Really? Was Dreams from My Father fiction? n/t

[JVS]

12. So was a sizable portion of this board worrying he couldn't win because he's black, apparently.

[mwei924]

2. What does being of slave linneage have to do with discrimination?

[IndianaGreen]

4. The same people opposed to gay marriage, were opposed to white women marrying black men

a point that seems to be lost on Obama.

[mwei924]

6. So? I assume that would apply to blacks who immigrated from Africa just as well?

Does it matter if he was descended from slaves?

[Clio the Leo]

3. Congratulations!

THIS is by far and without question, the WORST thread about this matter I have read thus far. "Too young to be scarred by Jim Crowe, too smart to be resigned to the ghetto" PALEEEEEZEEEEE!

Off to hidey land with you.

[Neshanic]

5. Wow! What a comment! Not to be well recieved here I must say.

[Cali_Democrat]

7. I assure you that every black person in this country has faced discrimination

Including Obama.

What an insulting post.

Shame on you.

[IndianaGreen]

9. Sure, and many think that being gay is a lifestyle choice

I am fed up with this shit!

[FrenchieCat]

13. So Obama is the source of all of the discrimination that

Gay people have faced? Obama is who you have chosen to dump on?

[CakeGrrl]

23. Fed up with whom?

Obama? When did he say that he believed being gay was a lifestyle choice? I missed that.

Is this time to rail about the blacks because you think they got Prop 8 passed and now because you think Obama stepped in it? Is that what's fueling this?

[FrenchieCat]

8. This is saying that Obama is not Black enough to understand the

plight of the Gay Community.

I call bullshit.

When the taxi comes by, it may not pick up Obama, but it may just pick up the Gay folks standing a block further down. Or, who knows if he ever got stopped by the police while driving his car with the hole in it, while leaving on the South Side of Chicago?

The problem with this whole thesis is that Obama has been Black all of his life, and even when living in Indonesia or Hawaii, he was still just about the only Black one there....and therefore different from others.

It is one thing to not have enough faith in him to not believe that he might have a game plan, but it is quite another to attempt to say that he hasn't been discriminated against and therefore has no empathy towards those that have been, because it isn't true.

Time will tell what he will deliver for the Gay community, and some want to judge him on this Warren selection, and they can if they so choose. But what we do know is that Barack Obama can't blend into a crowd of White people, and get lost....and because of that, he knows Blackness very well.

[Jackeens]

11. Excellent.

[Uzybone]

10. What bullshit

I'm really tired of anyone telling black people they have not seen discrimination. Lets stop playing this divisive game.

[JVS]

14. That person has it backwards.

If anything, Obama's experience in having to deal with and continue working with people who have offended him in the past because of his race (remember Biden's clean and articulate statement? Hillary's hardworking white americans?) seems to have made it so that he expects others to deal with similar offenses and move on.

[IndianaGreen]

15. Lyndon Johnson, a white Texan, showed more sensitivity to people being discriminated

than Obama has shown thus far!

[Jackeens]

16. Why are you bringing color in to this?

[IndianaGreen]

18. Discrimination is discrimination, and race is as optional as sexual orientation

What's next for Obama? Invite the Mormon Tabernacle Choir to the Inaugural?

[Jackeens]

22. Absolutely, race is as optional as sexual orientation...but why is Obama's color an issue here??

[Cali_Democrat]

17. Why bring up that fact that he's a "white Texan"?

Just curious.

[IndianaGreen]

20. Because LBJ never tasted discrimination, yet he was sensitive to the pain it causes

Obama seems to be totally insensitive to the pain that Prop 8 boosters like Rick Warren has caused.

[phleshdef]

21. Right, so when Obama was organizing communities and serving as a civil rights lawyer...

...he wasn't showing sensitivity towards people being discriminated.

You are a fool.

[CakeGrrl]

19. The "Egg" should ask the Secret Service

if the Obamas have to deal with discrimination. I'd say living under persistent threat of racist's bullets while campaigning to serve his country earns him a little cred when it comes to living a discriminatory experience.

Intellectualize a kevlar vest and the safety of one's family from the nutjobs wishing to do them harm.