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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 10:38 PM
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WOAH!!! WAIT A damn MINUTE...
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 10:50 PM by Froward69
Reverend Jeremiah Wright... think about his "Hate" (I would call them protest sermons) speech that was exposed by Hillary and the republicans latching on... Now think of whom is Exposing the real hate speech of Pastor Rick Warren... To the World? OBAMA...
:think:
cool your jets people.
Be patient.
~I know you have been told that before.
~we elected a Genius.
~I believe in regard to Warren, the word is petard.
~The world will crush Warren


I have seen the will of the people Overturned. as it violated equal protection. (soon to be prop 8 also, I feel it)

:tinfoilhat:
now I have a recipe of how to recycle our fridge magnets, and Obama/Biden bumper stickers into Obama/Biden car magnets...
and just printing '12 stickers to use the whole magnet again like license plate registration stickers...

Rec High enough and I will share the recipe.:evilgrin:

We have to Keep looking Forward. past Jan 20. Obama Obviously is.

ok I have my flame suit on... :hide: :tinfoilhat:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 10:40 PM
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Nah, too many people are having too much fun being mad
to even consider that you're probably right.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:20 AM
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6. I agree
everyone is enjoying the argument... dare I say lurking freepers are fanning the flames.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 10:40 PM
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1. I think you mean Reverend Wright
William Ayres is an educator, not a minister.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 10:42 PM
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3. your right...
:smoke: Ill get right on that.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 10:41 PM
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2. When you come down from your buzz
could you repost in coherent English please?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 10:44 PM
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4. Ares is the God of War ....
Otherwise, I am having serious trouble grokking this post ....
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 10:48 PM
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5. Well, that'd be nice and if the Warren thing sticks I and the rest of us hope it happens
Still, be prepared for the media to go "Pastor Rick, the kinder, gentler evangelical" on us.

It'd be no stretched after the way they manually stimulated the Reagan Administration and even Dubbikins in his early WH years.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:23 AM
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7. Hillary had nothing to do with "exposing" Rev. Wright's sermons
And fuck your "Just wait, people!"
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:29 AM
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10. Patience is a virtue
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:32 AM
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12. Glad Dr. King didn't think so, or Joe Biden would be shown in as President
Edited on Fri Dec-19-08 10:32 AM by LostinVA
FUCK YOUR PATIENCE
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:35 AM
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14. theres where you are wrong...
the bus boycot took more than a year. without violence. even 5 more years until federal legislation...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:38 AM
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16. Yes, and when did Stonewall happen? -- hurry -- go Google!
Edited on Fri Dec-19-08 10:43 AM by LostinVA
Dr. King would TOTALLY disagree with you. His widow did, and stated he would ahve stood with us and DEMANDED marriage equality. But what the hell did Coretta Scott King know about obtaining civil rights, eh? WHAT A POSER!

:eyes:

Your OP needs to be locked. It's disgusting and against DU rules.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:45 AM
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19. "Stonbewall"
What???

caution I am just as much of a Mutt as Obama is. Bastard too, as my state would not let my parents marry either.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:56 AM
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25. Knock it off
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 11:09 AM
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28. look all i am saying is
#27
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 03:18 PM
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41. Patience may be a virtue, but BLINDNESS is a handicap.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 04:16 PM
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48. see #19
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:36 AM
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15. That's only half true.
The information was out there. She chose to run with it.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:46 AM
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20. ok it was out there
Hillary brought it to the forfront. and we spent the rest of the year dealing with the rethuglians playing it over and over...
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 02:42 PM
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39. Hillary did not "run with it". She made no comments about Rev. Wright until
she was specifically asked about his statements during an interview. She gave a brief response which included the statement that he would not be her pastor. It was the media who ran with it.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 04:03 PM
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45. still the media
had not mentioned it as yet. Hillary brought it up.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 04:13 PM
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46. No, Hillary did not bring it up. The media had been kicking it around
for some time before Hillary was asked about it during an interview.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:26 AM
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8. What a perfect way to "expose" him. By honoring him at an historic event.

FAIL

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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:31 AM
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11. for 2 minutes...
pulls the dolts into the fold...
and the neo-cons think it is a "crack" in his support. when really it is a shrewd decision.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:27 AM
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9. Here is my flame of your post
<random irrelevant scorn mode="on">I can't fucking believe you just wrote "Now think of whom is Exposing the real hate speech of Pastor Rick Warren."

"WHOM"?

Where did you get your high school diploma, a trashcan? And what the fuck is with using the tinfoil smily?
If you're not discussing a conspiracy or a fringe political theory, the tinfoil smily makes no goddamn sense!
And finally, what's up with your idiotic user name--"Froward69", really? Were they running a sale at the trite store when you signed up?

And don't even get me started on your use of capitalization!

</random irrelevant scorn>
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:33 AM
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13. ok I went to private school
and crack your dictionary for the word Froward. then attempt to wrap your head around the "69".
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 02:19 PM
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35. I often wondered what the "Froward"
was for! I thought it was a combination of a name and a word (inside joke). I checked the definition and it certainly fits you.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 03:55 PM
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44. Thank You, I am
Edited on Fri Dec-19-08 03:55 PM by Froward69
very self aware.

Actually my grandma would call me froward when I was bad. Grandma should have been a Doctor. For her time... simply because Grandma was a female, she was prohibited and had to settle for nursing.

so I have many examples and understanding of the plight of certain sections of the population. and How they relate to struggles of today.

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:43 PM
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50. LOL, I thought he just spelled
forward wrong. Whatever. :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:38 AM
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:41 AM
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18. Thank you...
de o de o de oooo
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:48 AM
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21. Exposed by Hillary??! No. The sermons were available for purchase on the church's web site and it
was, I believe, Sean Hannity who was the first to make a big deal out of it.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:49 AM
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23. Hillary still ran with it...
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 11:36 AM
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31. Not really. For a period she didn't even comment on it. It's not like any campaign ads were made out
of it.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 11:48 AM
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32. still
the republicans (most likely) would not have noticed without her help to begin with. (albeit her help was not intentional)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 02:19 PM
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34. Amazing how quickly they resort to lying to fan the flames of anti-Clinton hatred, isn't it. n/t
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 04:15 PM
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47. It's amazing to they stick to a story even after it has been refuted to fan
the flames of anti-Clinton hatred.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:49 AM
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22. If what you say is true
than all we are doing is playing our part in our outrage.

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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:52 AM
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24. ok then work it out if
it makes you feel better... all I am saying is it is a shrewd move and still in line with attempting to bring us all together. no compromise makes one a stubborn neo-con freeper... and that's all
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:57 AM
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26. Ok, so he brings Warren out to expose him
If people don't play their role in being angry that Warren is there than there is no media coverage...Warren is just some "moderate" Pastor who speaks for 2 minutes and that is the end of it.

So if this is some master plot by Obama to show who Warren is, how do you get from point A to C without the point of his supporters being vocally unhappy about it.

The media doesn't want to really cover the supporters being angry because Warren sells books and ratings when he comes on their show. If he is exposed as just Fallwel in a floral shirt than he can't be their go to Fundy anymore for their warm and happy hug a fundie segments.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 11:07 AM
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27. like i said before
the neo-cons see it as Obama rejecting the plight of same sex persons. a chink in Obamas armor if you will.
However warren does reject the raping of natural resources.

It's not as if warren will be praying or consulting this administration. it's two minutes to get the haters watching. I see it as a teaser, or a hook to get them paying attention.

how many times over the last year did you expose the "willful ignorance" of the right?
showing them the truth/educating them is what brought home the election victory.:shrug:


this is why I hang out at greatest...
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 11:13 AM
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29. So let me get this straight
Because Warren plays moderate, very moderate, lip service to global warming, he is somehow a beacon of light?

What brought Obama victory was the total failure of the past 8 years and Obama being able to articulate differences to the middle who already believe the earth is warming up. Once Obama showed he was competent the election was won and he did that during the debates.

The haters are going to be watching anyway and I got news for you, the haters will still vote against anyone who supports equal rights for gays, abortion, sound economic principles, and the idea that the earth is older than 6000 years.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 11:18 AM
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30. no he is not a beacon of light
and at the same time he is not as crazy as most of the rest. granted some will vote for an (R) even if they are in a coma.

all i am saying the outrage is over the top.

my freeper ex wife is tickled to watch the inaugural now. where as last week she would rather(in her words) "watch paint dry".
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 02:14 PM
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33. Well, I don't know if it was intentional
on Obama's part, but I have to say I've seen more negative press about Warren than I did before. There was a time when I had a relatively positive opinion of the guy, but the Saddleback forum changed that. He brought up subjects there that he said he wouldn't and McCain got a free pass for blatantly cheating.

Since Obama selected him for the inauguration, I've seen some very offensive video clips on TV that I hadn't seen before. I can't say that I believe Obama did this for that purpose though. I do believe it is appropriate for people to express their displeasure at the decision and it helps keep the Prop 8 debacle upfront and visible.

I have to say, Obama has made some decisions in the past that caused some concern, but he doesn't seem to make careless mistakes. We'll see.
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skeewee08 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 02:20 PM
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36. Rev. Wright is for pro-choice & gay union
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 02:30 PM
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37. yes he is...
And from the youtubes I have seen I can understand the type of anger he was utilizing in his sermons. protest sermons is what have called them. taken out of context by the Lilly white right, did garner some traction.

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 02:35 PM
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38. "I would call them protest sermons"

The correct term is "Jeremiads".

If you want to see withering accusations against Israel, read the Old Testament prophets.

The bible bangers do the same thing - "God will condemn the US for allowing (insert here)" - but they react in faux patriotic outrage when someone else does it.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 03:04 PM
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40. Ah! The Jimmy Bakker treatment
In other words, Bakker had free reign to spout his nonsense coast to coast...that is, until the public at large got a good look at him. From then on, he was a walking parody.

This putting Warren in the spotlight just might be his undoing. Let's hope so.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 03:28 PM
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42. exactly
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 03:46 PM
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43. the day shift on DU seems to be much more rational...
SO found on the front of phone books sometimes are glued sheet magnets. Usually advertisement for some Plumber or electrician. these are intended for attaching to the front of your fridge...

well I have found that for the most part most of those plumbers and electricians have gone out of business in this economic result of Reaganomics. so instead of throwing them away...

I simply scotch taped my Obama/Biden sticker to the inside of my car rear window. so i still had the glue to make it work.
otherwise slowly peel your bumper sticker off of your car. Using a cotton swab to apply fingernail polish remover or acetone to the glue between the sticker and the car.

once the sticker is removed, use a glue stick to apply more glue (in a minute) to the back of the sticker. Then after arranging the flat magnets on your fridge into an area large enough to acomodate the bumper sticker. apply the glue and stick it to the arranged magnets...

after the glue dries peel off the magnets with the bumper sticker attached. then trim off the excess magnets usually a pair of scissors works.

there ya go... as promised.

I did the same thing to all of my O/B stickers and am giving them as Christmas or Holiday gifts to all of my friends and family... in fact my nephew in the Navy... (home this year) absolutely loves his!!! as it would stick to just about any surface on the ship he will be assigned to next.


As for the practicality of having to endure this Reaganomics educed depression needs to begin now. making Gifts is the way it is (for me) for awhile. I could get mad but to me that's just a waste if time.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 04:31 PM
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49. Pull!

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