My last word is SYMBOLISM IS FUCKING IMPORTANT

[AllentownJake]

Rosa Parks not giving up her seat was a symbolic gesture.

Ghandi going to the ocean and making salt was a symbolic gesture.

Cornwallis not surrendering personally to Washington was a symbolic gesture.

The lone chinese protester in Tianemen Square in front of the tank was a symbolic gesture.

If your married your wedding was a symbolic gesture to demonstrate publicly your commitment

If your Christian communion is a symbolic gesture.

If you've been to one Obama event you know how much symbolism is displayed on there. The people who sit behind the candidate are not early birds...they are hand picked by the PR people.

The Innaguration is nothing but symbolism. The peaceful transfer of power is broadcast live with one President sitting on the stage leaving power and the new President taking power. Who speak that day matters and what their role is matter.

Now it can be argued that someone who disagrees with Obama praying for our nation that day is good symbolism. It could also be argued that a man who tries to potray himself as a moderate when he is nothing more than Falwell in a floral shirt who worked to deny a certain population equal rights, and compares them to sexual predators and deviants is bad symbolism.

However stop saying its just a fucking prayer because symbolism has always and will always matter.

[gravity]

1. Obama is using it as a symbol of unity

[IndianaGreen]

6. Unity? As skin heads and Jews? KKK and Blacks? KKK and Catholics?

This is a symbol of Obama enabling bigotry and homophobia!

[KittyWampus]

7. you lump all Evangelicals together which is grossly inaccurate a form of bigotry all its own

[AllentownJake]

Well seeing Warren's analogies to why he didn't support Gay Marriage

All involved sexual behavior that is illegal. Pedophilia, Incest, and Bygamy therefore one can only conclude that Warren believes that homosexuality is unlawful and deviant behavior that should be punished. So if you support that...you aren't my friend.

[KittyWampus]

21. I don't "support Warren" and nothing I've ever posted would suggest that.

[IndianaGreen]

11. Warren compares homosexuality to pedophilia and incest

Warren compares abortion to the Holocaust.

Warren preaches that women must always submit to male authority.

Warren says that Jews will burn in Hell.

If you are endorsing Warren, you are endorsing homophobia, anti-Semitism, and misogyny.

[KittyWampus]

22. LOL! I have never endorsed Warren or come close.

[Clio the Leo]

17. It sho is. NT

[Runcible Spoon]

18. who's talking about every fundie?

we're talking about ONE particularly noxious fundie who just HAPPENS to be one of the richest, most influential and visible.

[cliffordu]

19. Don't be bringing common sense and a calm voice into this.

You'll fuck it up for everyone.

[AllentownJake]

8. But the KKK and the Skin heads adopted a highway last year

they aren't really that bad...they care about the enviroment.

[IndianaGreen]

13. And David Duke gave money to the United Way

They aren't really that bad...

[KittyWampus]

2. it's pretty hilarious having so many DU'ers SUDDENLY having an epiphany over symbolism

and how it matters. I'd bet a small sum that many of those DU'ers don't really have a clue as to the why and how it matters psychologically.

But yes, it is symbolism.

Warren is being used to reach out to Evangelicals, some of whom are younger and more likely to be amenable to causes of social justice.

[dflprincess]

9. Warren is being used as symbol by Obama to show that he is

willing to pander to anyone - no matter how bigoted and hateful they are - should he find it politicaly expedient to do so.

[IndianaGreen]

15. If Obama can pander to Rick Warren, how about pandering to Hamas?

Hamas hates Jews as much as Rick Warren.

[cliffordu]

20. I don't think your accusation is hateful enough. Try again, please.

[IndianaJones]

3. Warren is already shaping the thoughts and attitudes of many liberals here. nt.

[AllentownJake]

5. No he gave them an excuse to rally behind their previous attitudes and use

Obama as their excuse.

Again..symbolism matters.

[IndianaJones]

10. I think they simply have a lot in common with Warren. nt.

[lapfog_1]

4. And, as was pointed out on KO or Rachael tonight...

A President-Elect has mostly Symbolism to get his message out.

[QC]

12. Symbolism is only meaningful when it works for the good of Obama.

Symbolism that reflects poorly on Obama, on the other hand, is utterly insignificant.

[scheming daemons]

14. I very much doubt that ANYONE on DU has a "last word"

[AllentownJake]

16. I'm trying to put this behind me

I'm fucking pissed. However, I'm moving on....if you keep slapping the base in the face though...it will be interesting to see what happens when you need a bill passed.