I now Wish We Had Voted For McCain. We'd All Be United Again.

[Solomon]

And crying and weeping and wailing, but at least with each other. Jeez Loueeze, I'm getting sick of the crap flying here.

Nobody wants to give Obama a chance to govern. Let's just impeach the bastard before he takes the oath of office.


At least with McCain you all could have righteous indignation as opposed to the bullshit indignation going on now.

Flame me. I don't give a damn anymore. This place is ridiculous.

[MarkInCA]

1. No flame, I agree. n/t

[Seen the light]

2. This thread is new and exciting nt

[DevonRex]

8. You're still cracking me up. Kind of like a kinder gentler

OMC.

[Seen the light]

27. Well Thank You I Guess. OMC Is Quite An Interesting Person Isn't He?

[DevonRex]

34. Yeah. Even when I don't agree, I love to read him.

[John Q. Citizen]

3. That doesn't ring true.

We live in America. Get used to it.

[JVS]

4. I'm happier with things the way they are than with McCain winning.

I just wish I could believe that there were not a lot of posters who feel the opposite way.

[rpannier]

5. If you're unhappy

Go away and do something else for a while

It's very therapeutic -- I've done it before.

[Lisa0825]

6. DUCK!!!

:hide:

[DevonRex]

7. I suppose we have to have an Anti-Heil Obama salute here now.

[polichick]

9. Sign off if it's ridiculous. In America people don't have to agree with...

...everything their leaders do ~ and discussion is what message boards are for.

[cwydro]

10. Yes! Good post.

This place is crazy.

Obama is not even president yet and supposedly according to DU rules, we are supposed to support Democrats, but meanwhile we eat our own.

Bunch of whiners that are never happy.

[Skidmore]

11. Not to worry. By next election, Jebbie will have gotten to

go passed the Senate and straight to being the presidential candidate for the GOP. Heck, I can't wait for another uniter from the * family.

In the meantime, I'm gonna be knitting a lot of scarves and stocking caps. More useful than shooting ourselves in the feet.

[phleshdef]

12. I share the sentiment. Obama is pro gay rights, Warren or no Warren....

...yet some people look for every reason in the world to not be happy.

To hell with the important stuff like actual gay rights legislations like protecting gays from hate crimes, getting rid of don't ask don't tell and protecting gays from suffering job discrimination.

To hell with fixing our economy that is falling apart.

To hell with restoring other broken freedoms that occurred under the Bush administration.

To hell with restoring our standing with the rest of the world.

A evangelical preacher with an evangelical ideology giving a 2 minute prayer at the inauguration, an event that will have zero impact on our actualy lives, is whats REALLY important.

[laconicsax]

19. Obama says: "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman"

That's really pro LGBT.

[phleshdef]

23. Thats his religion. He still supports giving gays the same thing.

If we have to call it something different in order to get it pushed through, thats fine by me. We can fight for the right to call it marriage after the fact. But gay people need those rights NOW.

You can bitch and moan about the semantics of it all you want. Wanting to give gays the same rights as well as being a staunch supporter of protecting homosexuals from job discrimination and hate crimes means that you DO support gay rights. You simply can't prove otherwise no matter how hard you try.

[laconicsax]

42. So what if it's his religion?

If calling it marriage makes him squeamish, then he's a homophobe.

We have a secular government, founded on a secular constitution, and guided by secular laws. Religion should not factor into the equation.

Let's expand on Obama's proposal of a separate institution in place of same-sex marriage. Why stop there? Let's put LGBT children in separate schools and designate separate bathrooms and drinking fountains for LGBT use. Sound familiar? Separate rights are not equal rights.

Obama supports separate rights, not equal rights.

[ellacott]

30. The only 2 Dem candidates that supported gay marriage

was Kucinich and Gravel. John Edwards didn't even support it.

[laconicsax]

37. Your point?

[ellacott]

39. That you will never understand

[laconicsax]

46. Try me.

[NoPasaran]

13. No, we'd just be fighting over whether things would have come out different

If we had nominated The Other One.

Hysteria over the outrage du jour is the nature of DU.

[leftstreet]

14. Someone pm me when Warren is caught with a prostitute n/t

[Jamastiene]

15. Actions have consequences.

Obama is NOT Bush. He allows criticism.

Democrats fight. It's what we do in our infamous Circular Firing Squads. If you can't take it, duck and cover. It can get pretty heated. I know. I've seen it for years and years now.

In time, you too will be an old pro at the Circular Firing Squad. In the meantime, you might want leave the kitchen, take a chill pill, and watch from the sidelines. :evilgrin:

[damntexdem]

16. No, but the rest of us would be united -- against you for voting for McPalin!

And that's the point: we got Obama instead of McPain. Obama will greatly improve things. And we will CRITICIZE him for all eight years of his successful presidency -- as is not only our right but our duty.

[Starry Messenger]

17. It's the Airing of Grievances.

Why do you hate Festivus?

http://festivusbook.com/airingofgrievances

I think once everyone has a chance to vent, everything will calm down a bit. The pendulum swings wildly at first and then slows down.

[Phx_Dem]

18. No flaming from me. The level of whining has become ridiculous.

[Jennicut]

20. Yup, those sure were the days

I really hope that agreeing to disagree on DU does not mean we hate each other though.

[apocalypsehow]

21. A one minute prayer and people are being kicked off the site because they don't want Obama impeached

over it before he even takes office. Very disappointing.

And, yes, I do oppose inviting Warren to give the invocation and do think he's a homophobe - but, hey, I didn't win the election. Just like I wouldn't have invited Billy Graham to give the invocation back in 1993....oops, better not say the slightest little thing critical of the Clinton's. Slamming Obama is just fine, but you'll get your comments deleted without cause if you say the tiniest little thing critical of them.

[Windy]

33. Its extremely disappointing. Did any of you notice the Solis said she was going to work for equal

rights of gays in the workplace????? Get a grip! Tone down the hatred!!!!

[lligrd]

22. Yep, And Now It Seems That DU Itself Is To Blame

for any decision Obama makes that someone disagrees with. It is beyond ridiculous.

[HamdenRice]

24. Yup, "Let's just impeach the bastard before he takes the oath of office"

That's what it has come down to. Absurd, piled on absurd, on absurd.

[FrenchieCat]

25. I think that the discussion is healthy.....

and Rick Warren being defined as something other than what he has been defined before he was chosen
is not neccessarily a bad thing. It could be an opportunity to have some who didn't know much about Rick Warren except for what they had been told in the media (many who may have read his book) become more educated about why the Gay Community are upset about him. This will wake up a few.

In terms of him being allowed to speak, although he wasn't on my list whatsoever (I'd prefer Jim Wallis had been chosen), I can see how Obama sees it, that Warren may provide Obama with the audience that needs to be reached the most. I don't know what Warren is going to say when he speaks, and so I have to wait for that. If Warren says that we are all created equal no matter what...that's a message that may be constructive to those who need to hear it the most, and who are willing to accept it from this particular messenger. I also have to wait to hear Obama's speech to hear the message he has for this country.

I don't mind waiting to see what happens, as I have been waiting for 8 years.....
Patience is a virtue, and I'm going to have it.

So I agree with you.....but I believe that the discourse that is going on here is a good thing.

[Lerrad]

26. K&R, I'm about to leave DU for ever, because....

... most ever one here are big fucking cry babies. I think I could have a better conversation about issues that really matter over in the repug forum.

[Robb]

28. Just promise us

you'll make a nice long post about why you're leaving.

I never get tired of those.

[Sultana]

29. It's tough times but don't leave

:hug:

[Starry Messenger]

35. Toodles! n/t

[Fire1]

38. GLBT and Prop 8 issues DO matter. It's just the 'damned if

you do and damned if you don't' mind set I can't get to. No matter what you say, if you don't agree with them, you're a homophobe or a bigot. So, alot of DU'ers don't offer opinions/suggestions at all. They just stay out of it.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

44. Alright go and tell 'em I said wassup. nt

[book_worm]

31. No if Hillary had won then all the Obama supporters could rip everything she did instead

of it being the other way around. Let's face it the primary war never ended on DU.

[lligrd]

32. I Think There Is A Grain Of Truth In What You Said nt

[Egnever]

36. While I dont wish we had voted for mcsame... not even close

I do agree this place has become a cesspool. I have never seen this much whining in my 5 or 6 years of coming here.

It is beyond ridiculous. The man has not even had one day in office and half the people on this place seem ready to declare his presidency a failure. Sadly with a dem administration this place will die a slow death if the last two weeks of crybaby posts are any indication.

5 years or more of seeking this place as a refuge from the horrors of bush thinking there were like minded people here that saw him for what he was and now I am starting to think its just filled with people who like to bitch about everything and maybe it had nothing to do with bush whatsoever.

Its Sad at a time when we should be celebrating instead all that has been on here for the last few weeks is constant attacks on our new administration for any possible slight that can be found n matter how specious that criticism is.

They say its a big tent but .....WTF?

[brianna69]

40. Everyone so upset that thinks Obama is basically

the anti christ should just vote republican in 2012. Vote Jeb Bush/Palin.

[Left coast liberal]

41. Hear, hear, I am sick to death of this. Nt

[jberryhill]

43. Pull!

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

45. Laughing here, does seem to be alot of elbows flaying about.