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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:24 AM Original message |
EVERYBODY Gets a seat at the table |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think Obama will come out strong for GLBT rights, in ACTIONS |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I don't n/t |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. There seems a similarity to me in this with the issue of talking to |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I guess we will have to see about that too. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. So why didn't Obama select Ahmadinejad to give the invocation? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I don't think he has a big following.. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. I don't think he will either. nt |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. These I think, I bet you, I am certain posts do not do any good |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. I don't. He won't rock the boat or piss off conservatives -- and it's started already |
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madmadmad (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. LIKE THIS ACTION? PLEASE. HIS ACTIONS HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN MUCH LOUDER THAN HIS WORDS. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. I'm not going to hold my breath |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. The progressive left liberal democratic wing of the democratic party |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. boo hoo |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
66. "the ones who would create a theocracy out of a secular republic" -speaking of which, did y'all know |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. Contemplate the meaning of... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Oooh, "Unity"? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. His 'unity' is the religious right, isn't it? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. His Unity is "agree with me or you;re just an incestuous, polygamist, pedophile." n/t |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. And you are... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. When it comes to basic human rights |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. RichGirl, if someone and his flock happen 2 B working to |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Isn't that the 'religious right'? |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. No...that would be YOU.... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. One more thing: Where is the racist invocation? They're part of America too, right? |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Where's the Muslim invocation and the Raelian invocation. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Don't know. Where are they? |
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JohnnieGordon (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
40. Consistency isn't "silly" it's FAIRNESS |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. And Billy Graham was a beacon of tolerance? |
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JohnnieGordon (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Did he campaign and raise money in opposition to civil rights? |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. That's the beauty of having Rick Warren.... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. What's Rick Warren's racist stance? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. I don't wear a label... |
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madmadmad (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. NO BIGOTS SHOULD BE GIVEN A SEAT AT ANY TABLE. THAT'S NOT UNITY, THAT DIVISION. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Having a seat at the table does NOT equal having a postion of honor and history at the inauguration. |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Glad you asked.... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. No, he doesn't understand unity at all |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Generally speaking, except for the Unitarians, ALL CHURCHES EXCLUDE.... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
69. Except that none of that is true |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. He excludes people... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. But if he's showing UNITY how is it he's also seeking to disenfranchise a segment |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. This isn't about Rick Warren... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. "Obama is all inclusive and excludes NO ONE." |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Hey, you're the one that's saying you wanted to be united with bigots, not me. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Great "Unity" there. |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
46. Here's the thing.... |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Unity. Like the kind of... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Notice, it's always the gays who are supposed to suck it up for UNITY. Where's the racist |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
48. No one should have to suck it up when it comes to human rights. |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
49. Obama does not deny anyone their basic human rights. |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. "They exclude, you exclude, what's the difference?" |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Other than that marriage right. NT |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. UNITY is another word for FASCISM |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
15. So let's recap |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Do tell |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Oh, now I get it. This is a personal slight against YOU. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Actuall, it's a personal slight against several million people |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Well please don't speak on my behalf. You don't have that right. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I'm not speakign for you, you obviously could give a shit about the issue |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. And who ceded you the right to speak on behalf of millions? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The fact that these people are already saying the same thing I am. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I see. Well then for the millions of people who don't really give a shit about this.... |
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crappyjazz (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Rick Warren was part of a huge movement that DID impact on people's lives |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I'm more concerned about who will be driving policy than who casts the magic inauguration spell. |
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crappyjazz (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. It's up to you to be concerned about whatever you want to be concerned about |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. "Appointment to an important position in the administration" |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. That's how I see it. I can disapprove without making a huge stink. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
57. Well, you were offered a seat at the adult's table but you wouldn't sit there unless everyone else |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Win. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
71. Bullshit |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. You weren't cast aside for anyone. You threw a temper tantrum and stomped off |
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Yotun (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
61. Why can some people just not fucking see it!!! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. They don't "get it" because getting it would inspire some serious cognitive dissidence. n/t |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Apparently there's greater evil and lesser evil in their minds. Nazis = Greater evil, Warren =Lesser |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. They don't want to see it. After the last 8 years, there's a great need... |
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LibraLiz1973 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
68. If everyone gets a seat, where is David Duke? |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
73. To my mind he doesn't have to convince us that he is president but he does them and > |
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