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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:02 PM
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Rick Warren = Anti-Gay, Anti-Evolution, Anti-Social Justice: The Nation
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"In the world of the "broader agenda" evangelicals, when liberals advocate for gay marriage, they're stoking the culture wars; when a "broader agenda" evangelical crusades against it, he's merely upholding biblical standards. In that tradition, Warren in October implored his followers to vote for Proposition 8 because "there are about 2 percent of Americans are homosexual, gay, lesbian people. We should not let 2 percent of the population...change a definition of marriage that has been supported by every single culture and every single religion for 5,000 years." Warren called opposition to gay marriage a "humanitarian issue" because "God created marriage for the purpose of family, love and procreation."

Warren, a creationist, believes that homosexuality disproves evolution; he told CNN's Larry King in 2005, "If Darwin was right, which is survival of the fittest then homosexuality would be a recessive gene because it doesn't reproduce and you would think that over thousands of years that homosexuality would work itself out of the gene pool."

Warren protests that he's not a homophobe; it's just that two dudes marrying, in his mind, is indistinguishable from an adult marrying a child, a brother marrying his sister, or polygamy. He thinks his AIDS relief efforts represent an elevated form of Christianity over those non-evangelical do-gooders whom he compares to "Marxists" because they're more interested in good works than salvation. The rejection of the "social justice" gospel in favor of the salvation-focused evangelicalism that has come to dominate the definition of "Christian" lies at the heart of the religious right agenda to marginalize liberalism and harness its political power. ..."

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<http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081229/posner?rel=hp_currently>
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:14 PM
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1. "every single culture and every single religion for 5000 years"

Man that is so stupid my dog objected.


Muslims still practice polygamy.

Buddhist cultures practiced it formally up to 70 years ago and still supports it informally if the husband can responsibly support the family.

Christian culture has only recently legally and formally moved away from informal polygamy replacing it with serial monogamy. The one exception to this is the wide number of Evangelical preachers and Conservative Congressman that continue to fuck anything they can.


The most monogamous cultures in the world are places like Sweden that are highly secular and have the highest level of sex education among children. They also have the oldest age for the onset of sexual activity of teenagers and the lowest abortion rates.


He doesn't get it right, he doesn't even get it close.


If you go to his web page the most commonly asked questions are all about tithing. My favorite is if a tithe should be off the gross or the net.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:49 AM
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6. Complex sex/gender people were in the americas before there *was* a US.
Berdache. Two-spirit.

We had marriage between two people with XY, or XX chromosomes in this country since before we even had a country.

Warren isn't just a bigot, he's a stupid, uneducated, bigot.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:14 PM
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2. Good piece
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Warren represents the absolute worst of the Democrats' religious outreach, a right-winger masquerading as a do-gooder anointed as the arbiter of what it means to be faithful.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:24 PM
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3. K/R
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:52 PM
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4. The incoming Obama Administration turns a deaf ear to the likes of Sarah Posner
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 11:53 PM by IndianaGreen
It may well be that, like Rick Warren, the only change we will get from Obama is in the packaging not in the substance. Way to bring unity, Barack!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:11 AM
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5. Kick and rec for more attention! n/t
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:57 AM
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7. Don't forget anti-AIDS prevention.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4694671

Apparently, his organization is very particular to whom they will provide "relief" to as well.

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