In the interest of inclusion, I believe we should give creation scientists a seat at the table

[Maven]

and consider their views on the origins of life when we form our national science policy.

Hopefully we can find some common ground.

[leftstreet]

1. Why not?

[grantcart]

2. Either Cheech or Chong for head of the DEA!!

[AlCzervik]

3. Ack! And you win.

and make a very valid point.

[Mid_FL_voter]

4. GIive them a seat and then...

rip the chair out under their butts.

[Genevieve]

10. You have a problem with scientists?

:yoiks:

[Starry Messenger]

5. ...

I think Deepak Chopra should really be Surgeon General.

[Genevieve]

6. I started a post yesterday about "no invocation". While looking

over some of the posts a little while ago, I thought the same thing. After all, 12% of Americans
do not belive in religion, and yet this large minority is continually overlooked.

That said, I do not believe they will ever allow creation scientists a seat at the table
in my lifetime ;(

[gristy]

7. Uncle!!! You win.

I also like this point.

[Jamastiene]

8. Check... Recommended, and

:kick:

[Bluebear]

9. We must reach out to ALL views to find common ground.

[Kitsune]

11. Creation Scientists, hell. Flat-Earthers! *nt*

[Vincardog]

12. We need to end Faith Based "Science"

[Maven]

13. That's not a very tolerant approach.

[Vincardog]

14. Too baD. I am tired of ignorant bigotry and superstition disguised as SCIENCE.

[mondo joe]

33. Not inclusive at all. NT

[tomp]

15. if obama decides to, it will have been the right thing to do.

:sarcasm:

kinda like nixon's "if the president does it it's not illegal". if obama does it, it must be cool.

[Maven]

16. It's the most post-partisan approach.

[QC]

22. Pragmatic, too. n/t

[tomp]

36. code word for traitorous. nt

[QC]

39. Pragmatic: lacking in moral and political courage. n/t

[tomp]

35. as if "post-partisan" is a good thing. nt

[Danger Mouse]

17. I think more consideration should be given to the idea that Jesus did not ride a donkey...

but instead, he rode a velociraptor. It eviscerated three pharisees.

[boppers]

26. That would make the bible wrong.

Since the bible cannot ever be wrong, he must have rode a donkey.

(The donkey part was OT prophesy, if he rode a velociraptor, it would have invalidated him as the messiah, on a prophesy level.)

Oy. I can't believe I took this seriously.

[Danger Mouse]

28. Jesus can ride a velociraptor if He wants to.

:cry:

[scheming daemons]

18. Doesn't Warren already fill that role as well? n/t

[Muttocracy]

25. anti-choice too - a man of many talents. nt

[KitchenWitch]

19. This thread is full of win!

:applause:

[QC]

20. And people who believe that epilepsy is caused by demonic possession!

Why should they be denied their rightful place at the sumptuous banquet table that is America?

[xxqqqzme]

42. dimson took care of that w/ the new 'rule'

Deny medication to the epileptic so they can deal with the demons.

[EFerrari]

21. Does anyone know, do we have tables yet or not?

lol

[Irishonly]

31. We must have round tables

King Arthur and all where no one is the head.;-)

[QC]

37. Yes, we get to sit at that table in the kitchen.

Someday we might get to sit at the big people table, but we're just not ready for it yet.

[xchrom]

23. i love this OP! nt

[Clio the Leo]

24. While I believe in creation as it is defined in the Bible....

.... I'm not sure I'm down with this strategy. The two schools of thought are kind of mutually exclusive unfortunately. But an intelligent person is able to learn and understand science without compromising her belifes.

Science should be allowed to exist in its own sphere without having to compromise basic theory in order to placate a particular intrest group. Because the next logical step is who's version do we present? The commonly accepted story that God (singular) created the world? Or my personal understanding that GodS (plural, Father, Son and Holy Ghost) created it? My preference for referring to God using masculine pronouns or someone else's preference for using a feminine pronoun? See what i mean.

I was able to make through to adulthood as both a preacher's kid and an anthropolgy minor without being too scarred. You have to be able to compartmentalize things.

[boppers]

27. Sure, give them a seat.

Along with the all the scientists named steve.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve

Including voices isn't the real problem, the problem is disproportionate inclusion.

If Warren was one of a hundred preachers, with different voices, different views, there would be a lot less anger.

[Forkboy]

29. This OP is the equivalent of a good political cartoon.

:thumbsup:

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

30. Compromise is fun! The world is 156,000 years old.

[TBF]

32. Are we bringing the Klan too? Just want to make sure we include everyone.

:sarcasm:

[mondo joe]

34. They're evil, but since Obama is about including everyone, I don't see how we can not bring them in.

Unless we're holding double standards.

[QC]

38. Maybe Prussian Blue can play the Inauguration.

They can balance out the gay marching band.

[Shiver]

41. We already have the anti-semite

Having three would be disproportional.

[QC]

43. True, so we need to get a klezmer band to balance out the anti-semite.

That's seem to be how it works, according to some--some kind of mathematical thing.

[Shiver]

45. Wait, won't a shitload of Republican congressmen and senators be there?

I think we got the hate-side covered then... how about the love?

[QC]

46. Love? That's not very reachy outy of you!

Or pragmatic, either.

[Shiver]

47. On the contrary, it's very pragmatic!

While the haters bicker on their end of the table over what sub-group is the most contemptible, the other side can point and laugh and get some shit done.

See? It's both reachy outy AND pragmaticy. Get them distracted and get some real stuff done. :patriot:

[QC]

48. Maybe...but first we better see if it's OK with the fundamentalists.

We don't want to risk offending them.

[Shiver]

40. "Life exists"

Common ground found. :toast:

[NutmegYankee]

44. I could agree to that...

As long as their seat at the table overhangs from a bridge, and the common ground they find, is the river way way below. :evilgrin:

[leftofthedial]

49. I agree. But that's not nearly enough inclusion.

I think we should have the KKK provide security at the inauguration too. It's only fair. Perhaps inclusion will "de-fang" the skinhead movement and open a meaningful dialog between the Christian Identity movement and our new African-American President.