What should be our raging response to Mellisa Etheridge?

[LoZoccolo]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8019235

[matcom]

1. tell her she isn't gay enough!

pitchforks NOW!

[Zuiderelle]

21. OMG, I'm going to watch the inauguration even though Obama made a fucking huge mistake.

I guess I am not "gay enough" either.

Yeah, we should just ask every gay person to bow out of the inauguration so that we have ZERO representation. That's the ticket.

This kind of shit really doesn't help. Obama did something enormously stupid and hurtful to the gay community (and women) in his choice of Warren. And we have every right and responsibility to object to it.

What's your point?

[matcom]

28. my point was sarcasm

my point now is that you need a valium

[PeaceNikki]

31. I know... those gays and their hissy fits, huh?

How dare they get all uppity in a thread that was posted with the intent to mock and marginalize them.

They need to be medicated... and quick!

[matcom]

32. Militants suck

[PeaceNikki]

34. Mocking and marginalizing suck worse.

[matcom]

35. didn't mock or marginalize anyone

you should know who your friends are

[sundog]

43. you're a militant lesbian now!

hooray!

:patriot:

[PeaceNikki]

46. Aren't we all?

:eyes:

[Zuiderelle]

48. Apparently.

I didn't realize I was a militant, what with being such a milk-toast and apologizing. I feel so tricked.

[Zuiderelle]

33. Maybe I need a valium because others have been posting

stuff like you just did for days now, and not being sarcastic. My apologies for not understanding that yours was different.

Edit to add though... that the thread itself was posted with the intent of eliciting non-sarcastic comments exactly like what you posted.

But whatever, I guess I'll go get a prescription for valium. That should solve everything.

[matcom]

37. now you know

[Zuiderelle]

38. Yeah, ok, now I know.

I know you were being sarcastic now. The OP wasn't though, so it was kind of hard to tell that you were.

[matcom]

40. maybe others here can learn a lesson from this

but I doubt it

[Zuiderelle]

44. Who can learn a lesson? Gay people offended by Obama's choice or the other side?

I am having trouble reading between your lines.

[matcom]

49. how about all people here who assume others are against them or mocking them?

how about people here who need to take a step back and not assume others aren't with them when they are.

how about people here who think that this is a war with people who actually DON'T discriminate?

how about them?

that is a start.

[PeaceNikki]

51. Ah.. like me, I guess.

So... you don't see this whole thread as antagonistic mocking?

[matcom]

53. I didn't start the thread

so I have no idea of the intent.

I posted a sarcastic reply. If you have been around me for the last 8 years you would know that is something I tend to do.

but way to go with the jump to conclusions

[Zuiderelle]

55. Maybe the lesson you so want to teach is to actually accept my apology

and learn from it yourself. Why do you THINK I assumed your post was belittling gay people? It was the first response to an OP that was belittling gay people, and it was belittling gay people. That's why.

[matcom]

57. I haven't really seen a sincere apology

frankly I don't need one. if you want to manufacture enemies here there are many in front of you.

luckily for you, we white hetero's who care will continue to fight for your rights in SPITE of you.

and on more than just message boards.

[Zuiderelle]

60. Nice. Whatever.

Go ahead and continue to fight for my rights without admitting that what you said above was insulting.

I'll continue to fight for your rights too.

[matcom]

61. I will

despite you.

You're welcome.

[Zuiderelle]

63. As will I, despite you.

[matcom]

64. well, well, well

looks like we have an understanding!

amazing that people can actually use the Interwebs to come together!

[Zuiderelle]

52. How about people who have had a war against them for their entire lives

not understanding people who think a few days of our understandable upset amounts to a war against people who don't discriminate. That's absolute bull.

There are plenty of people here who are with us and show it, and they don't go around posting things that could very easily be interpreted as not being with us at a time when we are legitimately and justifiably upset.

[matcom]

54. i think the problem the last few days is the "interpretation" of a lot of things

deep breaths

[Name removed]

56. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[matcom]

58. I thought it was evident

as you were telling me to fuck off, I was posting #57

enjoy

[Zuiderelle]

62. You sure have a way with people.

I did apologize. And after the apology, which I now regret, I also explained why I reacted that way.

[LeftCoast]

39. Wow...I have just lost so much respect for you.

Mission Accomplished buddy!

[matcom]

41. how will I fall asleep tonight?

[LeftCoast]

45. I'm sure you'll manage

Empathy sure won't be keeping you up.

[Sub Atomic]

47. Maybe take a valium?

:rofl:

[matcom]

50. does valium and scotch mix well?

:rofl:

[PeaceNikki]

65. Sure. Just be sure to take plenty of each.

[matcom]

67. your compassion is noted

militants suck

[Zuiderelle]

70. What? You didn't recognize the sarcasm?

[matcom]

71. of course I did

that is why I didn't say anything nasty

I am an adult that way you see :hi:

[Zuiderelle]

72. Oh I see. "Militants suck" isn't nasty. I didn't realize that.

:hi:

[matcom]

73. sorry, I'm not a fan of militants

of any stripe. if you aren't one, no worries

[rcrush]

2. Shes hot.

[madeline_con]

3. "Don't come to my window" ????

:rofl:

[Jennicut]

8. Oh geez.

LOL

[TankLV]

4. figures...

"but - SEE? - the OTHERS are doing (...)!"...

utter and complete CRAP...

[lwcon]

5. Of all the men in the world...

David Crosby!?

[LoZoccolo]

7. Yes, she is a eugenicist, I forgot that.

She selected him for his musical genes; she's into genetic engineering!

[Sebastian Doyle]

25. Well she was gonna go with Neil Young

But she didn't want the Freepers claiming her kids weren't American citizens.

[lligrd]

6. Obviously She's A Friggen Bigoted Homophobe

I guess I better add: :sarcasm:

[Metric System]

9. You don't get it. And you obviously don't want to.

[LoZoccolo]

10. Show me where anybody tried to make me get it.

lol

[AlCzervik]

11. she went to the same conference, BFD, did you think she was going to kick him in

the balls, would he have accommodated her by lifting up the massive stomach girth so she could kick him in the nuts?

[Zuiderelle]

22. I wish I could respond as reasonably to all this shit as you do.

Just wanted to say that.

[NYCGirl]

59. And then she publicly asked gay leaders to reach out to Warren, according to Juan Cole:

http://theragblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/juan-coles-take-on-rick-warren.html


I was told that Warren's friends among the MPAC Muslim community had urged him to call Melissa Etheridge Friday night in the run-up to their being (serially) on the same stage Saturday night, and that he did so and they talked for half an hour. During his address, Warren mentioned also seeing Etheridge backstage on Saturday.

Local television in Los Angeles showed a short clip of Etheridge after the event asking gay leaders to reach out to Warren, just as they wanted him to reach out to them.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

12. Oasis sucks.

[AlCzervik]

13. score one for SA.

:thumbsup: :hi:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

14. But I wasn't just saying it to piss him off.

They really DO suck. :hi:

[sundog]

23. too bad

cause he really DOES suck

[AlCzervik]

30. hehe, you ain't lying.

:hi:

[LynneSin]

15. spell her name wrong in posts at DU

:hide:

Sorry couldn't resist going there

[Lyric]

16. Melissa Etheridge is the PRESIDENT!!! WOW!

:eyes:

[Starry Messenger]

19. I didn't even know she was in the line of succession.

President--Vice-President-Speaker of the House--Country Singer...

[liberalmuse]

17. What? Is Warren saying the opening prayer at her Presidential inauguration?

I didn't think so.

Do people really think because Etheridge talked to Warren and signed something for him that we should raise a stink? I'm not getting it. I thought we were talking about two different things. I personally don't care if Obama talks to Warren, or signs an autograph for him. I just don't want that odious bastard saying the invocation at what should be an all-inclusive, historical event.

[Bjorn Against]

18. So when did Etheridge invite Warren on stage to give a speech at her concert?

[wildonion]

20. Yes, so right after we impeach Obama we declare ME is not gay enough

[uppityperson]

36. you lasted 29 posts, tata troll, pizza came.

[stonewall666]

68. You're applauding the banning of opinions different than yours? Is this FREEPERVILLE?

[uppityperson]

69. dang, didn't even get to alert on you. Applause for the speedy mods.

[PeaceNikki]

24. Oh yay!! Another thread mocking and marginalizing the concerns of "the gays".

I bet your mom is proud! :thumbsup:

[John Q. Citizen]

26. We should be aware that those who attempt equivocation are hostile to human rights.

[hulklogan]

27. If your goal is anything other than antagonism of some LGBT Americans,

you've failed miserably.

[Starry Messenger]

29. Here's my new answer to everything:

[LeftCoast]

42. What's with you pro-Warren types and Strawmen arguments?

:wtf:

[LaydeeBug]

66. Oh...did she invite Rick Warren to invocate her inauguration? I had NO IDEA. nt

[Hanse]

74. Album burnings.

[CTLawGuy]

75. she's not black

so it's not like she's responsible for the passage of prop 8, as some on this board have shamefully said...