I guess on the bright side, President-elect Obama is standing his ground on the Warren deal....

[IndianaJones]

despite many believing it is the wrong thing to do.

This stands in direct contrast to the current guy.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

1. Seems like we have to learn how to trust all over again.

[avaistheone1]

2. The current guy Bush kept his position on Iraq all these years - regardless of how wrong it was.

[jonnyblitz]

12. that's what the OP is saying.nt

[avaistheone1]

20. Yes. And I am just bearing witness. That's all.

[stillcool]

3. Obama made a statement?

I heard something a few days..what was it 4-5(?), when the shit-storm first started, but I didn't know he had addressed it. What did he say?

[marshall]

4. At this point he's better off sticking with his choice

He'd look wishy washy if he backed down. He needs to appear strong and decisive, and he certainly doesn't want to set a precedent for his opinions being second guessed and allowing himself to be pushed around.

His best option is to stick with Warren but make it very clear that his opinion about homosexuality differs significantly from his.

[IndianaGreen]

16. (Obama) "needs to appear strong and decisive." At the expense of a marginalized group?

We call that bullying, gay bashing, where I come from.

[Lyric]

19. Sounds like more "stay the course" bullshit. Gee, where have I heard that before?

[elocs]

24. Yes, he would appear wishy washy and wimpy if he backed down every time someone

didn't like his choices or what he did or said. Obama could do the right thing, though, and let DU make all of his decisions for him because then we would have perfection.

[Skittles]

5. standing by a bad decision is unlike bush?

[Solon]

6. Psst...don't want you to kick my ass or anything but...

the OP is sarcasm, IJ is kinda famous for "flat" sarcasm, never, and I do mean, never uses any emoticons, at all.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

8. He has many more important decisions ahead.

Nuclear weapons for one.

[Skittles]

11. gee, I cannot fucking wait

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

13. That's the problem.

[Skittles]

17. it's not a problem to be legitimately concerned

worshiping is a HUGE problem

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

23. I was referring to not being able to wait and I didn't know that

worshiping was a "HUGE" problem compared to unleashing nukes upon the world.

[Skittles]

25. it's huge compared to BEING CONCERNED

I don't wait for a certain fucking date to BE CONCERNED

[sandnsea]

7. He thinks he needs to include fundies

I disagree, but he isn't likely to change his mind. Hopefully this will be the last 2 minutes they get until they stop discriminating and hating.

[jonnyblitz]

9. LOL

:thumbsup:

[bluedawg12]

10. Staying the course, is it? That's not change.

[IndianaGreen]

14. Unable or incapable of admitting error, and taking corrective action, is what Bush does.

We had 8 years of staying the course. We don't need anymore of that!

[QC]

15. He is a firm and manly leader. n/t

[cooolandrew]

18. I think he had to on this one there is no inteneded slight upon the gay community, just

a sensible move to bring in half of America to feel part of what is still a very historic day.

[GarbagemanLB]

21. Maybe because he expected the outrage from the base? Call me crazy, but this was deliberate.

[QC]

26. I agree!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Souljah_moment

[ProgressIn2008]

27. I tend to agree, too. I think he wanted the "RW cred", to be honest.

I'll wait it out to see if he caves, but I'd be surprised if he did. We'll see. If he did, he'd get Warren to withdraw with some statement about not wanting to disrupt such a historic event, blah blah etc, and in the meantime, no universal health care and troop buildup in Afghanistan and another day in the empire.

[QC]

28. I don't think Obama can unshit the bed this time.

Withdrawing makes him look weak, and as I said, I think the purpose of this abomination is to piss off the parts of his base that the wingnuts find most frightening.

Classic triangulation. Dick Morris is surely very impressed.

[Captain Hilts]

22. The current guy sticks with bad decisions even longer. nt

[polichick]

29. I have a feeling PE Obama will change his mind in the next few days.