Melissa Etheridge's wife: "Big Rick's (Pastor Warren) Yamaka"

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

Melissa Etheridge's wife blogged about recent phone call and meeting between Melissa Etheridge
and Pastor Rick Warren. Here is an excerpt:

the big rick's yamaka Sunday, December 21, 2008

...so honey met rick warren last night. well, she spoke to him on the phone beforehand, giving us insight into the man the media has made our latest "HE HATES YOU!" target. if i sit real still and think about it.. it's almost like reverse smear-the-queer. remember that recess game in second grade (natalie? derek? karyn?), when one kid had the ball, and all the other kids had to chase and kick the shit out of said person, hence "smearing" him? well, at times, it seems that the media presents us with target after target to smear, as if to say to us, "THIS IS THE GUY HOLDING YOU BACK!! GO GIT 'IM!!!" and it does seem that my lovely gay family is so bruised and bettered and ready to fight back (myself included), that we attack and deem someone ANTI-GAY, and ready to SMEAR, simply when they don't want the word "marriage" brought into our gay ceremonies. now, if the person doesn't want gays AT ALL, then i'm gonna chase that one down. but, i'm starting to think that there are indeed some people... some well-meaning and loving people... who are not at all ANTI-GAY, that's not why they don't want the word marriage used... they are merely RELIGIOUS. and for religious (archaic) reasons, they want to stay safe and respectful to WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TAUGHT....


...rick is not a televangelist. rick is not falwell. rick spoke of some "stupid" things he's said (his word, not mine), some missquotes that were given, and lots of ammunition from the media. all excellent points. (we're all war-minded right now, you know. it's easy for the media to distract us by throwing us into our own verbal wars here at home.) ) what to do, what to do.... the rest of the public is given an animation of rick warren... and then my wife meets the man behind the projections, the quotes, the "OTHER SIDE".

...anway. hath hell frozenth over? rick warren was humble and kind. honey and i are to go to his church sometime soon. and honey invited him to our house for an afternoon, to be with our family. (w.t.f.)

open minds hearts hands
differences fade.

read full blog at link

Food for thought.

[Hamlette]

1. I thought this part was interesting:

let's say i am wearing a baseball cap. now what if i want to call it a yamaka? you know- it's basically the same thing, but one is missing the sun visor. i don't call my caps yamakas... cuz that is a religious name for a hat that is worn by religious people. now if i apply that thinking to this situation.... i would like to think of it as.... if they afford us the EXACT SAME RIGHTS, then who cares what it's called?

snip

and he is warm, caring, effusive, and LOVES gays. since he nearly swallowed honey when he hugged her, i tend to believe him. he wants our gay marriages to be just as respected and embraced as the straight marriages. he just wants to wear his yamaka, and me wear my hat.

end

Is she saying Rick is fine with gay "marriage" as long as its not called "marriage"? Seems to be.

Let's say, just for the sake of it, that Rick gets enough "exposure" from this that he comes out for equal "marriage" rights as long as its not called "marriage". It is not perfect, and its not what I want, but it is a step in the right direction.

[MadHound]

2. First off, marriage isn't the purview of any church any more

Secondly, it's not just a view words, slips or "stupid moments". It is an entire philosophy that is based around homophobia, anti-choice, anti-woman, soft bigotry. Warren is a the prime example of the new kinder, gentler RW fundie. Same ol shit, just cuddlier packaging.

And sadly, people are falling for it.

[Metric System]

3. I'm sure gays can just feel the love when Warren talks about them in the same breath as pedophilia,

incest, and bestiality.

Melissa Etheridge's wife is decidedly NOT one of the great thinkers of our time. And it's not the first time I've come to that conclusion.

[NYC_SKP]

4. So, if Tammy Lynn was a member here and wrote that...

It wouldn't be pretty. I wonder if she'd be banned?

I found what she wrote to make a great deal of sense.

This part seems to describe some of what I've seen here at DU:

"that we attack and deem someone ANTI-GAY, and ready to SMEAR, simply when they don't want the word "marriage" brought into our gay ceremonies.

Hmmmm.

[AlCzervik]

6. Tammy Lynn may want to read up more on Warren's statements about Homosexuals

many here did not before they started bing dismissive and then they heard him and changed their minds.

[jonnyblitz]

the thread on this in the "other" forum is much more fun!

:rofl:

[AlCzervik]

10. no way! There are only about 2 people left in there anyhow, Name removed and the op.

:rofl:

[jonnyblitz]

13. Bwaha

stop. :rofl:

well, it *was* fun. it's late on the east coast. :D

[Sebastian Doyle]

7. She would be tombstoned instantly

Because her blog reads like a 2 digit IQ Freeper wrote it.

I'm not saying she's dumb, and it's hard to imagine Melissa Etheridge with someone who was, but on basis of the writing, that would be the appearance.

[Metric System]

8. Ugh. Warren IS anti-gay. Make no doubt about it. Sorry, I don't look to Melissa Etheridge's wife for

great insight.

[mondo joe]

11. If Clarence Thomas were a member here and wrote admiringly of Bush on racial issues

...

[Solon]

5. Is she to ignorant to realize he campaigned to strip GLBT people of their rights?

I mean, he helped to harm millions of people. Who does that out of love?

[JohnnieGordon]

9. They also defended Isaiah Washington, and Melissa defended Eminem, for the record

This actually reminds me of when Elton John went on a crusade defending Eminem, culminating in a duet with him at the Grammies. A lot of people thought his true intention was attention whoring, which is what I thought. And it's what I think Melissa, through her wife, is doing here.

FYI, Isaiah Washington is the Grey's Anatomy star who repeatedly referred to a gay fellow cast-member as a "faggot." Melissa's wife claimed to know him personally and defended him on her blog.

[Maven]

12. We've seen plenty of Warren to assess his views on our own, without this idiot's help

[earth mom]

14. I'd bet money that Obama & Co asked Melissa & her wife Tammy to give Warren a chance.

No doubt in my mind.

[firedupdem]

15. sure he did... LOL!! n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

16. Oh come on.

[Political Tiger]

17. LOL!

I guess Ellen turned him down?

[Lilyeye]

20. Fuckin Bullshit. No doubt in my mind.

[earth mom]

21. Obama asked or told Matt Damon to stop talking shit about Palin.

What makes you think that Obama wouldn't try and get Etheridge to mend fences with Warren?

[Umbram]

22. Lol...loosen the tinfoil, you are losing circulation. (nt)

[LoZoccolo]

18. Well, Melissa Etheridge is both homophobic and house gay.

What do you expect?

NOTE: This post is sarcastic.

[EFerrari]

19. I have a bridge for sale around here somewhere.

[Orsino]

23. Etheridge's fame bought her that meeting.

Those of us not so privileged will have to make do with examining his record. So she found him personable and humble? WTF does that have to do with Warren's selling of hate, that is by definition anti-gay? I'll wait to be astonished by his transformation into a supporter of civil rights for all--and I think I'm going to be waiting a while.

In the meantime, I'll applaud whatever concessions Obama, Etheridge or anyone else can win from Warren, and try not to be impressed by reports of what a nice guy he is in private.