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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:46 PM
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Warren to be keynote speaker at MLK commemorative service on the day before inauguration.»
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/22/warren-mlk/

Warren to be keynote speaker at MLK commemorative service on the day before inauguration.»

Rev. Rick Warren, who is President-elect’s controversial pick to give the invocation at his inauguration on Jan. 20, will be the keynote speaker at Martin Luther King, Jr. Annual Commemorative Service at the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church on the day before the Inauguration, Atlantic Progressive News reports. Before she passed away, King’s wife, Coretta Scott King, declared that gay marriage was a civil rights issue and denounced a proposed constitutional amendment that would ban it.
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mwei924 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:47 PM
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1. Ok, who invited him?
Because he/she must be a bigot.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:48 PM
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2. When reached for comment in Heaven, Dr. King's only response was .....
:puke:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:49 PM
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3. All this attention because he has the biggest fundie church - so much for Dem values.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:49 PM
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4. Boy, is that gross or what. I caught Melissa making a statement on CNN
this morning. What a display *that* was. And then, they got a black pastor to call us "McCarthy-like".

Somewhere, a nerve has been hit.

Keep pushing.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:51 PM
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5. reapin' the bennies of the sweet gig at the inaug. nt.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:53 PM
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7. Ain't it the truth nt
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Leo The Cleo Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:52 PM
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6. Rick Warren is a HUGE Tool . . .
But I don't care what he does at the inauguration. Obama's policy choice will be what I look for. But having Warren,who is a tool for the republican party and couldn't even speak truth to power about Katrina, essentially give a public affirmation of this president seems like a kick in the ass to him. His colors are sort of showing. And that is something I don't mind. Watching this tool essentially give post election endorsement is a knife of thought. It right in Warren's big fat liar gullet.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:55 PM
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8. Oh, the irony.
Well, Warren's fall will be that much more gratifying to watch. I think his love affair with the media is going to come to an end soon.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:21 PM
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9. Maybe we should hire a detective so his inevitable secret sins can be uncovered asap.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:25 PM
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12. I would totally donate to that effort.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:22 PM
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10. Coretta Scott King and her husband are rolling in their graves.
:(
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:24 PM
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11. Why in the world would he be chosen for this???
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:25 PM
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13. Because he's not the absurd one-dimensional caricature we make him out to be here NT
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:25 PM
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14. So he's a civil rights activist?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:27 PM
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15. On a lot of issues, yes
And on a very important issue he's very wrong.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:28 PM
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16. Which civil rights issues has he worked on? (I'm not kidding, haven't heard.)
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:29 PM
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17. Poverty, health care, HIV/AIDS in the third world
Edited on Mon Dec-22-08 06:29 PM by dmesg
Equal access to education. Lots of stuff.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:29 PM
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18. Maybe they like his work regarding poverty and Aids in Africa.
Some may or may not agree with him on gay marriage and abortion. But they agree with him on other issues so they invited him.

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:31 PM
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19. Wonder who actually invited him - the family, or someone else.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:35 PM
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20. Something tells me a lot of DU had never heard of him
He's been making waves -- big waves -- in the Christian right for years, challenging a lot of their assumptions and dragging them, kicking and screaming, to the table on a lot of social justice issues: the environment, poverty, health care, education, peace, immigration, you name it (except LGBT equality, about which he is still very wrong).
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:39 PM
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21. It's not just the gay rights issue - I don't like his views re women either...
...but I don't trust ANY fundie ministers, that I'll admit.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:46 PM
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22. Hey, me neither. But as I keep yelling here, Warren is not a fundamentalist
He's a conservative Evangelical. He's made waves precisely because he doesn't have the dispensationalist baggage of fundamentalists.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:49 PM
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23. Even a conservative Evangelical or a Catholic priest would be too much for me...
So, is Warren someone you admire? Do you think Barack was right to invite him?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:57 PM
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25. Not sure about "admire"
I'm a liberal Christian so I disagree with a lot of his theology (about everything past the Nicene Creed). I thought "The Purpose-Driven Life" was kind of schmaltzy. I admire a lot of the work he's done on climate change, poverty, and AIDS. I think his statements about LGBT people are hurtful and wrong, and I hope he learns from this past week how hurtful they are and amends himself. I think his stance on choice is wrong, but I admire that he has at least stated willingness to work with us on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies (and incidentally, he's taken much more heat over that than Obama has taken for inviting him to the inauguration).

So it's a mixed bag. I admire that he stood up for the poor and the environment at a time when no other conservative Christian would do so, and took Dobson's and Falwell's double broadsides straight at him with no acrimony. I admire that he considers a divorce-ridden Christian population's attempt to keep gay people from marrying as hypocritical. For that matter I admire that he wants full legal equality of gay civil unions. I really wish he understood how much a lot of his language about this subject hurts people, and I fault him for not being more empathetic.

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 07:07 PM
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26. Thank you for such a thoughtful response...
I too hope that this outcry will help Warren see the pain he causes with his rhetoric. I doubt Obama foresaw the response he's gotten ~ but it sure has energized people, and that's a good thing.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 07:09 PM
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27. I have a guess
Isn't MLK's minister daughter pretty anti-gay? Maybe she picked him.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 07:10 PM
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28. I didn't realize that. Yikes.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 07:16 PM
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29. here ya go
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 07:20 PM
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30. Thanks - interesting, and sad.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:55 PM
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24. I assume this would be Bernice in action
The King family is what it is. May they reap as they sew.
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