Jindal in 2012?

[firedupdem]

Bobby Jindal is seen by many in his party as the Next Big Thing, a political comer who at 37 offers competence, reform and a fresh face for a Republican Party in dire need of all three.

But even as he basks in the media glow from his maiden foray to Iowa last month, Jindal is far from a sure thing in 2012.

Jindal, only elected governor last year, said flatly this month he’s not interested in being president and is only focused on a 2011 reelection bid — perhaps not surprising at a time when few will admit to White House ambitions.

Still, there are indications, from Jindal and close advisers, that he truly is reserving judgment about taking on President-elect Barack Obama in four years.

If Obama is as formidable then as he appears now, it’s unlikely that Jindal, who would be only 41, would risk an uphill race against the incumbent.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16855.html

[On the Road]

1. 2012 is Going to be a Rough Year for Republican Presidential Candidates

The party simply doesn't have a deep bench or a compelling vision. Somebody's going to step up -- I doubt it will be Jindal. Perhaps someone else from the older generation by default.

[SKKY]

2. Jindal or Palin, I'm fine with either...

...Either one will do just fine suffering an Obama landslide, hopefully killing the Republican "Brand" once and for all.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

3. Go for it!

:rofl:

[elehhhhna]

4. Their nominee will beJeb. Mark my words.

[firedupdem]

5. You may be right...I see he's trying to step it up to Senate....he'll

probably try and run. I really think he's the one the family had in mind for the presidency...the more dimwit brother beat him to the punch.

edit: spelling sucked

[galaxy21]

21. Most republicans don't want Jeb to run

They, correctly, think the Bush name will guarantee loss.

To be honest, if Obama can make McCain out to be another Bush, and be very good at it, making Bush look like Bush should be very easy.

[Kahuna]

6. He's too smart for that. Palin and her enormous ego are likely to be

the 2012 sacrificial lambs.

[marimour]

35. I hope so too.

I would love to see her up against Obama in a presidential debate.

[Clio the Leo]

7. Stage presence is (almost) everything.....

... just as we saw with the Obama/McCain debates, how the candidate LOOKS on camera plays a big role.

I was worried about Bobby, until I saw these...





Looks a little star-struck, doesn't he? :)

[Vinca]

8. I thought he said he wasn't interested in 2012. That would make sense

since Obama would have to screw up very badly not to get a second term. Jindal is probably smart enough to let Mooseburger take her shot next time around.

[Umbram]

12. You believe politicians who say they are not going to run? (nt)

[Vinca]

16. I do when it's obvious it would be a stupid move for them to.

Assuming Obama is a popular president, anyone who seriously wants the job will wait rather than be humiliated by a blow out vote against them.

[d_b]

9. they'll save him for 16

and he'll still lose.

[camera obscura]

10. Logically he should wait until 2016. But greed has a way of overcoming sense.

I think he will go for the gold, unless it becomes clear that Palin is going to be the nominee.

[PatGund]

11. The freepers would explode...

First off, Jindal is the wrong colour.

Second off, the ones pimping the "Natural Born Citizen" nonsense would have to admit they were full of crap. They claim that Obama isn't a "Natural Born Citizen" because his father wasn't a US citizen. NEITHER of Jindal's parents were US citizens when he was born.

The freepers are demanding Palin in 2012. Oh joy.

[Kber]

13. Jindall will wait for 2016.

Better chances without an incumbent, and Biden may be not be running in 2016. He'll be older than John McCain was in 2008.

[firedupdem]

14. Palin will definitely run in 2012...I think Jeb will too ...they will

battle it out and he'll be the nominee.

[galaxy21]

22. As far as Jeb is concerned I believe in the bradley effect

Or a version of it. People will say 'hey, he's not his brother' but once they get in that booth and see the name Bush....they won't be able to vote for him.

[Taverner]

15. 2012 GOP Lineup

My time machine actually worked last night, but only long enough for me to get a copy of Newsweek from 2010

The lineup is going to be

Bobby Jindal
Sarah Palin
Rudy Guiliani
Jeb Bush
Joe Lieberman (he finally switches over)

[CatholicEdHead]

23. Add Tim Pawlenty

He just got back from a "trade" mission for Minnesota to Isreal. He is still working to get over the Cheney snub that gave Norm Coleman the Senate seat run and not him. Getting to be President (after McCain passed him over for VP) will satisfy his ego of finishing ahead of Norm.

[Taverner]

34. Pawlenty can't run - he is killed in a duel with McCain

Happens a month or two from now

Oh and Lieberman runs, he just doesn't do much better than the Ghoul

[sabbat hunter]

30. Lieberman

will be 70 when 2012 comes around. He will suffer the age factor by then. Additionally for all the flak that Lieberman rightly gets for his stance on the iraq war, he is far to liberal (and jewish) for the republican party. If you look at most of the views that Joe L has (a 100 from the abortion rights organization NARAL Pro-Choice America and 88 from the human rights campaign including voting no on the gay marriage ban, he Lieberman cosponsored the Domestic Partners Benefits and Obligations act of 2003, which provided the same benefits to domestic partners of federal employees as spouses currently have, and scored an F from the NRA)

So for all the hatred at Lieberman on Iraq, he is more liberal than a lot of democrats, nevermind any republican that would be a candidate for their nomination.

Hell I for one was not surprised how poorly guiliani did, considering his stances on many of the same issues.

Lieberman is guilty of one thing, not knowing when he was wrong on Iraq and when to admit it. Other than that he is pretty liberal.

[CANDO]

17. My right wing brother told me almost two years ago about this guy.

He's a ditto-head and said that Gush Limpjaw has been pushing Jindal for some time now. I think the freaks will be ecstatic with a Jindal/Palin ticket in 2012.

[SuperTrouper]

18. Forget Jindal. The rRpublican base will never nominate someone with his

skin color and exotic name...just ask Cokie Roberts. Kidding aside, I have a few GOP friends who "wonder" if he is Pakistani or if Jindal is Muslim. So he will never get out of the Primaries. Whomever say that Jeb will be the nominee is wrong. Jeb will wait until 2016 and I expect the GOP to sacrifice Huckabee or Romney because Obama will be re-elected in 2012. In 2016 it will be Jeb/Steele

[Warren DeMontague]

19. Yep. Another far right culture war crusader who wants to put women in jail for taking the pill

thinks abortion should be illegal in all cases, including rape, incest, etc.

While THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY PRO CHOICE.

Let them continue this old, tired bullshit of stroking their knuckle-dragging base. Let them buy into the fallacious, tired corporate media claptrap about the "all-powerful values voter".

Sure. While yer at it, run him with Palin, whydontcha'.

[CatholicEdHead]

24. I read he switched to Catholic from Hindu to set himself up

Of course he picked the extreme conservative wing of the Catholic Church. he is trying to get a boost from US Bishops' coat-tails.

[IndianaGreen]

20. JIndal believes that people are possessed by demons

and he has performed exorcisms. Is this is the man we want next to the nuclear button?

[zulchzulu]

25. If Jindal can improve Louisiana's economy, good for him. But he won't...

Louisiana will continue to be in the skids with job losses, dreadful recovery efforts with the Katrina disaster, horrible education and crime.

Jindal will have shit to run on, besides the fact that the white-owned Republican Party will NEVER nominate a guy with a funny name and brown skin.

[Unsane]

26. Nope.

If ever, he'll run in '16. He looks ill and is like 5'8.

[firedupdem]

27. LOL!!!

:rofl:

I thought it was just me! He does look sick.

[jmowreader]

28. Jindal in 2016, not 2012

Jindal is smart enough to know he needs that second term as governor before he's got the perceived gravitas to play on the national stage. Add to that the fact that at 41 in 2012, a lot of people won't see him as "old enough" to be president.

Oh yeah...and he'd also be running against Barack Obama, who will be seen as "more competent" than the First Squatter. (It won't take much.)

I think they'll run a Jeb/Palin ticket. They have plenty of reasons to be pissed at both the Bush family and Sarah Palin. A Jeb/Palin ticket is a dream ticket if you're running against it--combine general Bush Family corruption with Jeb's own corruption and the corruption Palin brings to the ticket, and the attack ads write themselves. After a 425-ev drubbing in November 2012, the Republicans will never have to worry about seeing either name on a ballot ever again.

The GOP has one huge problem: they have no bench. We've probably got ten people who could make a viable run for president, including Kathleen Sebelius, Christine Gregoire, Brian Schweitzer, Wesley Clark and Deval Patrick. (I also think Barney Frank would be good, once you got past the "fat white ultraliberal from the People's Republic of Taxachusetts" thing.) The Republicans have Bobby Jindal (who says he doesn't want to be president and may be telling the truth), Sarah Palin (who couldn't get elected mayor of Wasilla right now, much less president--way too much baggage and not all of it's from Louis Vuitton) and Arnold Schwarzenegger (who is Constitutionally incapable of being elected president, in addition to being corrupt, a bad actor and a bad example for impressionable children). My guess is they'll be reduced to drafting Idaho Senator Mike Crapo, who isn't very well known outside Idaho and isn't all that corrupt--and it's truly sad that a party that was once at least respectable (they gave us Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower!) needs to pick a man whose primary qualification for office is that you can't google up anything really derogatory against him. And you gotta like a guy who puts the pronunciation of his name (CRAY-poe) at the top of his Senate bio, even if he is a Republican.

[Drunken Irishman]

32. Fat, white ultra-liberal Jew from the People's Republic of Taxachusetts.

[jmowreader]

33. Oh yeah, that too.

That Jew part would really be what took him down...fat and white, no problem. Ultra-liberal, a minor problem but in 2016 after eight years of the "most liberal member of the Senate" in the White House, liberal won't be such a slam. And the People's Republic of Taxachusetts thing is going to go away soon--Massachusetts hasn't been the highest-tax state in the Union for a while, even though it's not a state at all but rather a Commonwealth. California is highest, quite a few red states are higher.

But the Jew part? You can be fat, white, ultra-liberal and from Mass so long as you love Jesus. No Jesus? No presidency. Sorry, Barney.

[blitzen]

29. Jindal is tanking in Louisiana....

he's destroying Higher Ed and Heath Care, in favor of tax cuts. Of course that's the GOP recipe for success, but it won't be long before even the Repukes here are pissed--when they see that their beloved LSU has gone down the tubes thanks to Bobby.

[Drunken Irishman]

31. Jindal isn't stupid. He realizes he can run in 8 years.

There is a good chance he doesn't win in 2012. Not many incumbent presidents lose, so why risk it? He stands a far better shot at the presidency in 2016 and losing in 2012 would pretty much undo any chance then.