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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:35 PM
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Today's provocative topic: "A mob is still a mob, even if they are with you."
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 01:45 PM by Writer
DISCUSS!

Edited for better syntax.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:37 PM
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1. That's not a question
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:38 PM
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2. Hey, man, it's a topic of inquiry.
DISCUSS!
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:39 PM
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3. Is this kind of like putting lipstick on a pig?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:39 PM
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4. that's a statement, not a question
and it's a pretty inchoate statement at that. If you're asking if a mob is reliable if it's "with you", then obviously the answer is no, by dint of the basic definition of a mob. From Merriam-Webster:

1: a large or disorderly crowd ; especially : one bent on riotous or destructive action
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:41 PM
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5. And they can turn against you in the blink of an eye. nt
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I814U Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:45 PM
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6. Cons try to distort the meaning of mob...
...to mean any large group. They oppose "mob-rule" which is just crypto-speak for democracy. As the Meeriam-Webster definition points out it is an "unruly" crowd but who gets to make the rules?

I would like to think it's "We the People" i.e. the so-called mob but these days I have my reservations.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:47 PM
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7. I think what the OP meant was that we don't know when to put our torches and pitch forks down.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:01 PM
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9. The bigger problem is we don't know when to pick them up.
Instead we allow ourselves to be slowly & quietly murdered while we do nothing.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:07 PM
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10. Speak for yourself. I've been waving my torch around for at least 6 years....
And its making my arm sore.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:19 PM
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12. An even bigger problem is when we use them to threaten the wrong people...
Then things devolve into a circular firing squad...
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:52 PM
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8. DU: home to the aspiring ochlocrat.
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I814U Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:10 PM
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11. If a mob is an unruly crowd...
...who gets to make the rules and call them unruly?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:38 PM
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13. people get hurt in mobs
it's really that simple. And there is such a thing as a mob mentality. It ain't pretty.
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I814U Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:54 PM
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14. There's a difference between mobs and riots and I eschew the latter...
...but progressive actions are often labelled as "mobs" i.e. anti-war protests. I'm just asking who gets to write the rules about what makes one group "unruly" and another more politically palatable.

That's all I'm saying.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 03:24 PM
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15. For the purposes of this thread, what is your definition of a mob? n/t
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