If Dean loyalists want to throw temper tantrums FINE, I'm a Plouffe loyalist throwing 1 too . .

[wndycty]

. . .after reading SWAMPLAND and realizing that I should be throwing a tantrum because David Plouffe worked his ass off and Barack Obama OWES David Plouffe DAMMIT and should have made him DNC Chair, Chief of Staff, Secretary of State, Senator from Delaware and UN Secretary General DAMMIT.

Even though Plouffe is being both gracious and magnanimous about this diss in public I KNOW that he expected some type of gesture dammit. I can read his mind and more importantly I can read Obama's mind and know that this move or LACK THERE OF, was done on purpose to say to Plouffe, "F YOU MAN, just F YOU!"

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Do I sound crazy and irrational? Do I sound like I am looking for a controversy where one doesn't exist? Ummmm yeah and so do the others.

[Danger Mouse]

1. Thought I doubt this thread will end well, I agree with the general sentiments you express.

[wndycty]

3. LOL when you saw it did you slap your head look at the screen and say:

"Oh boy"

[Danger Mouse]

7. I sucked in my breath in anticipation of the storm to come.

:hi:

[wndycty]

8. LOL

:kick:

[Jennicut]

34. Me too

But oh well. Pouting and outrages are all the rage these days.

[Captain Hilts]

2. You sound like someone unable to think with discretion or perspective. nt

[wndycty]

4. Damned skippy!

I'm not getting my way and I think I know why so there is going to be hell to pay!

[Captain Hilts]

12. Folks will all get excited through the week. Don't worry, it will be fun.

Tastee Diner near the Bethesda metro is making all employees work longer hours starting middle next week.

It's going to happen - enjoy!

[rox63]

5. Plouffe is now the boy-genius of campaign managers

He'll be in demand to help others win their elections. Maybe that's what he likes doing for a living?

[wndycty]

6. I feel Obama dissed him so I reserve the right to throw a temper tantrum dammit

:sarcasm:

[Kahuna]

10. Me too..

:cry:

[Kahuna]

9. Recommend!!

:yourock:

[wndycty]

11. You are obviously not a progressive

Its obvious the OP (me) is not a true progressive like me. You know Obama is really a RINO. :sarcasm:

[Kahuna]

13. I only voted for Obama because of Plouffe. I demand recognition

for Plouffe. And I don't care if people don't like it so there! :P

[wndycty]

14. Well at my local DPFA meeting. . .

. . .you know David Plouffe For America. . . .LOL

[NashVegas]

15. Could You Explain How Plouffe Inspired You to Be Active, Start Blogging, GOTV, etc

Before you'd ever heard of Barack Obama?

Thanks.

[wndycty]

17. Well . . .

. . .I had never really gotten into politics until I heard David Plouffe speak. Sure he was working for Barack Obama, but it was Plouffe not Obama who inspired me :sarcasm:

[elocs]

16. There's always a temper tantrum here over something. I hardly notice them anymore.

Somebody is always all worked up over something.

[wndycty]

19. Are you mocking me? How dare you!

I am a Plouffe loyalist dammit. . .I am extremely sensitive today.;)

[Kahuna]

21. 'Worked-up Underground???' Oh the drama! Sounds good to me.

:)

[wndycty]

22. Very funny but you are mocking me. . .

. . .waaa waaa waaa :sarcasm:

This is the only place where folks even take issue with folks who agree with them. . .LOL

[Honeycombe8]

18. Silly post. #1 Plouffe isn't a politician. #2-No one has been asking for 5 posts simultaneously.

Making fun of someone's supporter who feels for the politician who is partly responsible for the change of direction in the country, but who has been loudly, obviously, and unceremoniously kicked out of the party....is not cool.

[wndycty]

20. Quit mocking me. . .

. . .now you have hurt my feelings. Don't speak ill of David Plouffe.

[MaineDem]

24. Hang in there.

:hug:

[K Gardner]

25. You're cracking me up, wndy :-) Cute post.

[wndycty]

26. Cracking you up? Is this dissing of David Plouffe something to laugh at?

I am a Plouffeiac! Plouffeiacs of the the DU UNITE!

;)

[Lisa0825]

27. LMAO!

I'm a Deaniac AND a Plouffeiac!!! I'm not outraged enough!!!

[MaineDem]

23. Good lord. Dean has not been kicked out of the Party

He announced many months ago that he was not seeking the Chairmanship for a second term.

[bigwillq]

28. Not crazy at all.

You have every right to express your opinion no matter how much it goes against popular opinion, here or any where.

[mopinko]

29. my sentiments exactly. why that ungrateful s.o.b. obama

will probably set my hero's house on fire!

[ellisonz]

30. Plouffe just had his first child and can make millions doing private consulting.

[Cha]

31. I love Dean and so does

Barack.

z --

"Yesterday, I had the honor of introducing Virginia Governor Tim Kaine as the next Chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

We're in a strong position to build the Democratic Party, renew our commitment to the principles we share, and continue the outstanding work of Chairman Howard Dean.

Among his many achievements, Governor Dean launched a strategy to reach out to Americans in all 50 states -- north, south, east and west. This 50-state strategy helped Democrats compete in states where we hadn't in years, including states like Virginia.

Governor Kaine has seen the power of the 50-state strategy firsthand, and under his leadership, Democrats will continue to organize and compete in every corner of our country.

Share your question for incoming Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine -- he'll answer as many as possible in a video on Democrats.org.

Tim is the ideal leader to grow and strengthen this party -- not by appealing to our divisions, but by appealing to our common hopes; not by pursuing policies that advance a specific dogma, but by pursuing policies that work for ordinary people.

As Governor of Virginia, Tim was known for his intelligence, integrity, and strong economic leadership.

He has a record of putting public service above partisanship, and he knows that reaching across party lines is the way to achieve progress for all Americans.

Over the next few days, you'll have a unique opportunity to get to know Governor Kaine. You can submit a question online, and he'll answer as many as possible in a special video next week.

Learn more about the future of the Democratic Party by submitting your question to Governor Kaine:

http://www.democrats.org/welcomekaine

The success of our party in the years ahead depends on strong leadership, but it also depends on a committed membership determined to bring change.

Thank you for your hard work and please join me in welcoming Chairman Tim Kaine,

Barack

[Two Americas]

32. so malicious and destructive

Why not argue your point of view forthrightly and honestly and debate people with whom you disagree?

I haven't seen any Dean supporters throwing any temper tantrums, and even if they were that is no justification for portraying all who have spoken in support of Dean the way you are doing here.

[wndycty]

33. Well I feel that they have. . .we will have to agree to disagree

:kick:

[Two Americas]

39. wouldn't matter

Two wrongs do not make a right.

[AtomicKitten]

35. .

[LoZoccolo]

36. Recommended! n/t

[wndycty]

37. Are you mocking me with that recommendation????

You know I keep a list and I check it twice so even if you agree with me on this issue I reserve the right to hate on you because you might have hurt my feelings during the 2004 primaries. . .LOL

[LoZoccolo]

42. lol too late! You are already on my list for the 2004 Dean "Kool-Aid" comment...

...that either you or your pal from the Clark campaign made (it was so traumatic that I can't remember who did it). I am the one who was in pathetic sadness first, and thus any listing of me on a list consists of bullying. It is easy to be a bully. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I am giving up. I am giving up saving this party completely. My voice has not been heard. We have been ignored time and time again. It has been very telling. I will still be speaking out though.

[wndycty]

44. Yeah but I remember 1980 when we talking via CB radio and you insulted me for supporting. . .

. . .Carter because you were supporting Kennedy. So there.

[PurityOfEssence]

38. Winning is about winning; leading is about engendering loyalty

Some have been overbearing on the implications, but some are just a bit surprised and disappointed. As someone who couldn't STAND Dean in '03 and '04 and had serious problems with the more ga-ga supporters from his camp, I'm very happy with what he's done as DNC chair. I'm not much of a fan of Obama's either, even though I voted for him, support the administration and generally keep my annoyance to myself in public. He's got his points, but I'm a firebrand on the subject of religion, and he's played it to the hilt.

Oscar Wilde once had one of his characters say something that used to annoy me until I gave it a second thought: "In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity is the vital thing." I had thought in my callow youth that this meant that content wasn't important, but appearances were. What I see now that applies here is the polish and finesse of stratospheric high-wire politics. If they learn from their sloppy snubbing of Feinstein (which they seem to have done beautifully) and a bit of shabby discarding of a pivotal and successful leader like Dean, then all is well and good. If they continue on with their utilitarian and opportunistic using of people and then tossing them aside, there's going to be hell to pay. Nothing saps loyalty like disloyalty.

The words still burn in my ear of the campaign contact's response to the McClurkin disaster of 10-28-07, when asked if there were any misgivings: "we got what we needed to get out of it."

Some people are being excessively shrill, but some are merely pointing out the unpleasant appearances of the situation. I hope they learn from it. One can't get saddled with the characterization that one just uses people when convenient and then throws them aside. The very prevalence of the term "throwing x under the bus" is disturbing beyond belief. This is getting to be a standard characterization, and not just here in the hotbed of lefty discontent. That is not good.

Remember, too, that zealotry has its payback: Mr. Obama has benefited mightily from legions of followers who are willing to overlook all sorts of disturbing things and are often in the mode of extreme and instant dissent crushing. Meet the Deanies. Good thing they haven't pissed off the Clarkies or there'd be REAL hell to pay.

[cali]

40. FAIL

Spectacularly so.

[wndycty]

43. Looking at the number of posts and recs. . .

. . .it doesn't look like this is a fail at all. ;)

[Binka]

48. Are You In The Eighth Grade? Post Clicks & Recs Make Something Good?

Go clip your toenails. And take a look at your nose hairs. Something tells me you do not pay attention to detail.

[wndycty]

50. Hey I am having fun. . .

. . .and I already did those things its a snow day here in Chicago.

[Binka]

54. Good! Don't Forget To Floss!

[Starry Messenger]

55. I hate to be the one to tell you this...

and you are probably not going to believe me, but people on other (conservative) websites brag about having fake accounts here so they can click and rec on threads to mess up the score card here. Just FYI.

[EraOfResponsibility]

41. kick, rec'd, and laughing my ass off n/t

[ruggerson]

45. I thought Plouffe clearly stated publicly that he did NOT want a job in the administration

he wishes to stay in the private sector.

[wndycty]

46. Yeah but. . .but. . .but... he is just being gracious

sniffle sniffle. . .our voices are not being heard.

[snowbear]

47. Geeez... How many times were "David Plouffe does not want DNC Chair" articles posted on here???

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.
.

A LOT !!!!!

He was the first choice. But he did NOT want the job!

[wndycty]

49. You do realize my OP was all about sarcasm?

:kick:

[snowbear]

51. Hey you...

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.
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Get in here for two minutes --->

[wndycty]

52. Since my feelings have been hurt by Plouffe's dissing I will never ever go to the penalty box. . .

. . .and since my feelings were hurt by Plouffe's dissing I can be mean to whomever I want whenever I want.

[snowbear]

53. Ju say sumpin?

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~~~~~ (( ))

[CakeGrrl]

56. Poor Plouffe-Daddy...

You can just SEE in his eyes whenever he speaks that he really wanted to be part of the Obama Administration. He's just putting on a brave face to give Obama some cover so we won't see what a self-serving opportunist Obama really is.






:sarcasm:


:rofl:

[dcindian]

57. Zeik heil

You want to stifle dissent you can stuff it.

[wndycty]

58. I'm not trying to stifle descent. . .I just want to be able to throw irrational tantrums. . .

. . .like everyone else.

[dionysus]

59. seig heil, at least spell it right, jesus

:eyes: