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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 04:59 PM
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Time for Grades already? Really? OK in that case I give . . .
myself a D+.


Now I know that many feel that is a high but there are extenuating circumstances.



I thought that the first grading period for a President came after 100 days but I guess we are going to be grading not on results or legislation passed but by past actions of appointees - (so much for grade inflation).

I didn't get the memo but a number of brilliant and ideological pure DU heavyweights have been giving Obama his due and well it seems like he needs a partental conference (I guess with Michelle) because he is not only set out a campaign of hatred against gays he has publicly set out to humiliate Governor Dean. His grades so far? Mostly Cs and Ds

Well this has been a real surprise to me because Obama has been the most civil of politicians on the national level. Civil in the primaries and civil in the General Election. In fact I am almost certain that there were some folks who said that he was too civil and that he had to take the gloves off and get nasty.


Change we can Trust and Change from the Bottom Up


Before we can give a grade to Obama we have to go back to the Sylabus that was laid out and from the begining Obama made it clear that it wasn't about him but that it was about change from the bottom up.

I guess then we should start grading from the bottom up.

Well pretty clear where that is.


The Thai System of Self Grading - "Reconsider Myself"


The Thai political system is truely an enigma wrapped in wonton served with a beer. It has a cast of charachters that would remind you of the theatrics of Palin and Blago. There is an exception. When something goes completely down the drain, whether a natural disaster or a planned government policy and the official in charge is on the spot the official, whether Prime Minister or the local head of the offending unit will ask for a few days off to reconsider him/her self.

The criticism stops and after a few days and the official gives an objective and frank assessment of what he or she should have done and how events would have turned out if the other path would have been followed up.

Now in the US we come back with a defensive "I am not a crook" approach which Blago has taken to a new level with "There will be no criminal conviction". In general our politicians just never admit any mistakes.

Now the Japanese go to the other length. If a meteroite were to burst thru and destroy a school full of children then the Japanese official would come out with something like "I should have known that a meteor would hit a school but I did nothing" and resign.

So the Thais have an interesting approach and it is fun to watch because the official will be graded on how fair he is with himself. Amazingly they can be very tough on themselves and in doing so their reputation is maintained and a useless resignation is avoided.


Reconsidering from the Bottom Up


Given that Obama clearly said that this was going to be about putting together a movement that would address the change question and not simply voting one guy to do it all, it makes sense that we start at the very very bottom.

Now if I had known that I would be graded even before the Oath was taken I would have done more.


Now we have to look at both mitigating and extending circumstances.


I did object to what I consider Obama's most serious gaffe the inclusion to the multi offending Warren.


http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart


That mitigating effort however is underminded by the exenuating circumstances that I simply slipped that note into the mail. If I was really going to make a point I should have driven up the coast and tried to hand deliver it to his personal secretary.


I missed the No on 8 Demonstrations but the mitigating factor on that is that had I known I would definitely have gone. On the other hand I should have checked more frequently. Which reminds me . . .(not to late to start working on the next grade).

Their is no mitigating plus for posting at DU because that is not actually an action, anymore a conversation at a coffee house is a progressive action. Now if you write something that actually results in an actual action you could count that but, lets be honest now, that is pretty rare and I have nothing to really add there.

My greatest mitigating factor is that my time has been used up by being a temporary foster parent for the last 6 weeks of a 10 year old girl whose family (sans mother) was wiped out by the Tsunamai. Unfortunately all of my bonus points for this effort was wiped out by the fact that if I had known how difficult it was and how time confusing it was to be a temporary foster parent I would have never agreed to do it. That wipes out all my bonus points and leaves me grasping for a D+. Good thing this was only the midterm grade.


Obama's Grade


Well unfortunately I have atleast enough sense to know that I have to get my own grade up before I start judging this guy.

And his grade is not going to be on how big the stimulus package is that he passes but how many jobs he actually creates, and so forth down the line. I don't care what he says about Gaza I only care that he fixes it one way or another. If the Saudis or the Iranians get the credit then fine with me - Obama gets the grade. I don't care how many PH'ds Obama appoints he will be graded on slowing down and reducing CO2. Everything else is, well, talk.


I will say this about one thing he has done. He has made a bunch of government scientists cry.

My work puts me into contact with all kinds of federal employees. By chance over the last 4 weeks I have met and talked with a couple of dozen biologists and enviromental scientists who work on Camp Pendleton (who knew that the Marines employed over 100 scientists to comply with environmental laws at one base?).

Several times, after completeing our business, I would ask the scientists how they feel about the change in administration. More than once the response has been watching a serious minded professional's eyes tear up and say "Now I can do my job". We all know that their work was being rewritten at the White House but that went all the way down the line and they were told that they could not issue certain 'non compliance' judgements (I can't remember their official term).


Well the report from this part of the bottom hasn't resulted in much real change for anybody (Christ I still think I should have been given a little more time for the first grade) but even though he hasn't raised his hand yet Obama's election has resulted in change for some folks.

When I get my grade up I'll let you know about Obama's.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 05:07 PM
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K & R! n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 05:10 PM
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2. you get a C for your reply
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 05:07 PM
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1. dupe....oops! n/t
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 05:07 PM by firedupdem
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 05:10 PM
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3. and a D for the duplication


lol thks for your k/r
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 05:17 PM
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4. I give myself a D for buying into blog chatter as gospel.
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 06:16 PM by AtomicKitten
It would have been an F but I gave myself points for knowing how to Google.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:12 PM
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13. lol
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 06:08 PM
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5. Always a pleasure reading your posts, grantcart
Seems to me I remember some group complaining to FDR (I think?) about his nonaction on their concerns, and he told them them to make a big fuss so something would have to be done. I think it's up to we peons to join our voices together and make that big sound.

K&R!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 07:44 PM
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12. thanks for your kind response
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 06:10 PM
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6. One of your best posts ever!
And you have a lot of damn good posts out there!!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 10:03 PM
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15. Thanks AZBlue
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 06:15 PM
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7. You get an A+ from me.
:thumbsup:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 12:44 AM
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16. thank you my sister
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 06:26 PM
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8. Brilliant! I'm not grading
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 06:28 PM by zidzi
Obama yet..I'm still focusing on how fortunate we are to have won.

Thanks for reminding us that this will be a Change from the ground up..very important point.

I don't see Obama being anything other than respectful to Dr Dean..

z --

Yesterday, I had the honor of introducing Virginia Governor Tim Kaine as the next Chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

We're in a strong position to build the Democratic Party, renew our commitment to the principles we share, and continue the outstanding work of Chairman Howard Dean.

Among his many achievements, Governor Dean launched a strategy to reach out to Americans in all 50 states -- north, south, east and west. This 50-state strategy helped Democrats compete in states where we hadn't in years, including states like Virginia.


Governor Kaine has seen the power of the 50-state strategy firsthand, and under his leadership, Democrats will continue to organize and compete in every corner of our country.

Share your question for incoming Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine -- he'll answer as many as possible in a video on Democrats.org.

Tim is the ideal leader to grow and strengthen this party -- not by appealing to our divisions, but by appealing to our common hopes; not by pursuing policies that advance a specific dogma, but by pursuing policies that work for ordinary people.

As Governor of Virginia, Tim was known for his intelligence, integrity, and strong economic leadership.

He has a record of putting public service above partisanship, and he knows that reaching across party lines is the way to achieve progress for all Americans.

Over the next few days, you'll have a unique opportunity to get to know Governor Kaine. You can submit a question online, and he'll answer as many as possible in a special video next week.

Learn more about the future of the Democratic Party by submitting your question to Governor Kaine:

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The success of our party in the years ahead depends on strong leadership, but it also depends on a committed membership determined to bring change.

Thank you for your hard work and please join me in welcoming Chairman Tim Kaine,

Barack








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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 06:30 PM
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9. The new kid's got big plans. ;)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 06:36 PM
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10. I give myself an B for research I posted on DU concerning
Obama's not yet documented Stimulus package,
and a D- for not posting my research enough via repetitive Posts,
in response to naysaying "Hair-on-fire" repetitive posts from those DUers
denouncing the not-yet-proposed Obama stimulus plan.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 06:42 PM
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11. No way are you a D...
.
.

An A all the way! ~~

In fact.. since they're recruiting for new moderators here.. I sure know someone who would make a GREAT one..

YOU!! ~~
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:22 PM
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14. Allow me to retort......
"Now I know that many feel that is a high but there are extenuating circumstances."

No excuses, slacker. Ever since Phrig stopped carrying you, you been long on verbiage and short on the numerical verbosity....


D minus.


"Change we can Trust and Change from the Bottom Up"

Are you sexually harrassing me?? Will you do so for five American Dollars??

B+

"The Thai System of Self Grading - "Reconsider Myself"

I'd consider myself lucky if you'd pass what you're smoking lately. And some of that Pad Thai.

A+

"Reconsidering from the Bottom Up"

Are you a sex maniac??? Or something??

A++

"Obama's Grade"


It's a big fat "F" if you read a lot of the posts here on DU...In the real world not so bad.

I cannot wait for him to take office so the REAL criticism starts.

:hi:

Yo, Grantcart!!!





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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 04:17 AM
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17. "allow me to retort" somehow that reminds me of Ralph and the honeymooners lol
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