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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 07:29 AM
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Friends Offer a Glimpse of Caroline Kennedy
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28598559/
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NEW YORK - When community groups and the Board of Education were caught in an acrimonious dispute over an arts program, education officials brought in a fixer: Caroline Kennedy.

The daughter of a president and niece of two senators listened attentively, asked probing questions and proposed various scenarios to resolve the dispute. Under her prompting, a compromise was reached.

"People were pushing themselves back from the table and folding their arms," recalled Stephanie Dua, chief executive officer of the Fund for Public Schools. "She was very good at defusing the situation. ... She has a very easy style about her but she's very sharp."

The episode is an intriguing glimpse into how Kennedy might fill the role of U.S. senator if she is appointed to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton.

In a series of interviews with The Associated Press, friends and colleagues of Kennedy painted a picture of a reserved but intelligent and tenacious woman who writes her own speeches and who, despite her vast wealth, still takes the subway.

Those interviewed did not provide an impartial view — but, with several speaking publicly for the first time about their relationship, they offered a rare look inside the private world of a woman America fell in love with decades ago as she rode her pony over the White House lawn.

‘Lively, engaged, inquisitive’
Much was made of Kennedy's decision last January to support Barack Obama's presidential campaign, but she is no stranger to politics. Paul G. Kirk Jr. remembers meeting her at the age of 16 or so, soaking in as much as she could while on the campaign trail with her uncle Teddy.

She was "lively, engaged, inquisitive," said the family friend and former head of the Democratic Party. "She might hear two or three people ask the senator the same question if he was in a forum. They'd get back in the car, and she'd follow up."


Kennedy's friends and colleagues talk about what a remarkably "normal" life she lives, but one could argue they're not the best judges. After all, her circle includes famous authors, a co-president of HBO, a former head of the Democratic National Committee, senators and the president-elect.

Kennedy's finances — estimated by some at more than $400 million — never came up, Alderman said. The co-authors swapped who paid for dinner, and they flew coach. Kennedy has an assistant but does not use a driver, takes the subway around New York and books her own flights, friends said.

Her six-room apartment is at an exclusive address on Park Avenue where a larger unit was recently listed for $13 million. Friends describe it as a low-key place covered with books and decorated with slip-covered sofas.

Kennedy and her husband, museum designer Edwin Schlossberg, enjoy entertaining, frequently hosting buffet-style gatherings, Newberg said. Sometimes, he cooks.

Like thousands of New Yorkers, the couple hosted a debate-watching party the night of the face-off between vice presidential candidates Sarah Palin and Joe Biden. Talkative guests were shuffled into a separate room with a television so the true political junkies could hunker down in the den and hear every word.

‘Each of us can make a difference’
Compared to the sharp-elbowed style common among New York politicians, Kennedy's personality in a series of recent media interviews has seemed quiet, soft-spoken.

But those who have worked with Kennedy said her sometimes reserved demeanor could be misleading. More than one spoke of an instance where they had watched her listen carefully to each person's point of view, then argue her point calmly but tenaciously until she achieved her goal.

"If you aren't as loud as I am, often people mistake that for not being effective and that's just wrong," said Elaine Jones, the former president of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, where Kennedy served on the board. "I know how able, substantive and tough-minded Caroline is. Now others have got to see that in her. And she may have to project it."


Kennedy writes all her own speeches, says another longtime friend and colleague, Heather Campion. Preparing for the 2008 Democratic National Convention, speech writer and strategist Bob Shrum recounted handing her a draft of her speech, only to see her rewrite it from top to bottom.

Kirk said she seems to have taken to heart an oft-repeated family quote that she has included in her speeches again and again over the years: "Each of us can make a difference and all of us must try."


Kennedy's endorsement of Obama for the Democratic nomination came at a vital moment in his campaign, and friends said she loved campaigning and seemed invigorated by it.

"Presumably she could have had an appointment," said Campion, who at Kennedy's request broke decades of public silence about their friendship. "There are a lot of great ambassadorships," Campion said she told Kennedy earlier.

There seemed easier ways to contribute without thrusting herself into the intensive public scrutiny that would come with a Senate bid.

However, Campion recounted, Kennedy was unconvinced by the warning.

She said: "But I want to make a difference ... and I love New York."

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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 07:46 AM
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1. We can do better...you know
You know just liking art you know and school stuff you know and asking questions you know doesn't you know necessarily you know qualify you to be you know a senator. You know I think you know it might be a good idea you know to bring up a solid Democrat from the you know House or even you know the NY state legislature.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:02 PM
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2. Caroline you know will be the next you know Senator from NY so you know get used to it
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:54 PM
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4. Above all, C.K. will have an
inside line to the President of the U.S. not a small deal in the tough times ahead for the country and esp., New York with the loss from huge Wall Street revenue.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:56 PM
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5. We could do a LOT better than Kennedy.
The first paying job in her life should not be U.S. Senator.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 07:44 PM
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17. Obama Trusted Her Enough To Have Her Pick His Veep
I think intelligence is a an important qualifier and she has that as well as a record of unpaid public service. I just bet she can keep up with any one of the senators, especially those with names like Vitter, Cornyn, Inhofe and Lieberman.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:20 PM
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3. Her late brother used to ride the subway everyday, too. He was unpretentious as well.
Edited on Mon Jan-12-09 12:23 PM by ClarkUSA
I am looking forward to her appointment. There's no doubt she will do great things and support President Obama wholeheartedly.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 01:12 PM
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6. Really not a good point to make...
Reality is her brother was not destined for politics which is how he ended up becoming a publisher instead of a politician.

Reality is neither is she. But she has the Kennedy name and the Onassis money. Emphasis on the latter. And, well, with enough money, I guess you can create your own destiny. Her brother probably wouldn't have. Which in itself has raised the question of why she would.

As for her friends they are all part of a public relations campaign. Nothing more. But she will be the senator. Until she has to run for the position. And then maybe she wont' be the senator.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 02:02 PM
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8. Why? Sorry, but I'm not into the taste of sour grapes.
Edited on Mon Jan-12-09 02:14 PM by ClarkUSA
Reality is they said the same things about Ted Kennedy as you're saying about his niece. I'm sure she will prove the
naysayers wrong, too.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 04:02 PM
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10. True.
She is buying the seat based upon her name. Shameful.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:08 PM
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24. hillary paid for it in matrimony
so it seems to be a cheap seat.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 06:27 PM
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12. Not in your opinion.."it's not a good point to make"..
I like knowing it and think it says a lot about a person. John F Kennedy Jr was in Publishing and we don't know what his life would turn out to be since it was cut so drastically short.

I admire Caroline for knowing she wants this and going after it.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 06:52 PM
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14. He was only 38 when he died.
How much of a political career could he have had? He ran a political magazine. He was considering running for Moynihan's Senate seat, the one that Hillary eventually won. I doubt anyone would be questioning his credentials had he decided to run.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 07:05 PM
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15. Of course not...
He also had the Kennedy name and the Onassis money. And apparently his mother's common sense which Caroline apparently doesn't. Among other things, well, he wasn't the brightest light bulb. And quite honestly, neither is she. There. I said it.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 07:49 PM
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19. That's a lousy thing to say.
I'm really disgusted by Dems crapping on CK. Sorry to be blunt but it's gross.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 08:11 PM
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20. But it's the truth...
Edited on Mon Jan-12-09 08:13 PM by Baby Snooks
Sorry to be blunt but it's the truth. As so humorously indicated by the first reply to the original post. You know, she's, you know, sort of new at this, you know, but, well, you know, in time, you know, well, maybe, you know, she will get more comfortable with it, you know. You know?


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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 08:13 PM
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21. The truth is that you're waving RW talking points.
Fine, you have every right too, but let's not pretend otherwise.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 10:54 PM
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23. Oh please...
Edited on Mon Jan-12-09 10:56 PM by Baby Snooks
Quite a few of the Democrats in New York don't like her and don't want her. I guess they're really not Democrats according to you. Where does it say you have to support the Kennedys no matter what in order to be a Democrat? Camelot was just one brief shining moment. Hers ended when she opened her mouth. "I will make financial disclosure AFTER you appoint me?" She lost half of the Democrats in New York with that one comment. But despite it all, she will be appointed. But then she has to run at some point. And she won't be able to play princess. And will probably regret the day she decided to enter the political arena. Her challengers, and there will be many, will massacre her. First in a primary. And even if there is no primary because the party decides the princess will run unchallenged, the Republican challenger will massacre her in the election. People are being polite now. That will change. Although some are not really being so polite. The media is just choosing, so far, to be polite for them.

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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 01:57 PM
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7. What a great senator Caroline Kennedy will be!
She has the right stuff all right..
learned at her great parents' knees.
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 03:37 PM
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9. How about Charlie Rangel?
Or Jerry Nadler? Or any of the following? They've put in their dues and earned the right to be bumped up to the Senate.

Bishop, Timothy H.; New York, 1st
Israel, Steve; New York, 2nd
King, Peter T.; New York, 3rd
McCarthy, Carolyn; New York, 4th
Ackerman, Gary L.; New York, 5th
Meeks, Gregory W.; New York, 6th
Crowley, Joseph; New York, 7th
Nadler, Jerrold; New York, 8th
Weiner, Anthony D.; New York, 9th
Towns, Edolphus; New York, 10th
Clarke, Yvette D.; New York, 11th
Velazquez, Nydia M.; New York, 12th
McMahon, Michael E.; New York, 13th
Maloney, Carolyn B.; New York, 14th
Rangel, Charles B.; New York, 15th
Serrano, Jose E.; New York, 16th
Engel, Eliot L.; New York, 17th
Lowey, Nita M.; New York, 18th
Hall, John J.; New York, 19th
Gillibrand, Kirsten E.; New York, 20th
Tonko, Paul D.; New York, 21st
Hinchey, Maurice D.; New York, 22nd
McHugh, John M.; New York, 23rd A
rcuri, Michael A.; New York, 24th
Maffei, Daniel B.; New York, 25th
Lee, Christopher J.; New York, 26th
Higgins, Brian; New York, 27th
Slaughter, Louise McIntosh; New York, 28th
Massa, Eric J. J.; New York, 29th
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 06:41 PM
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13. NO to Peter King
:-)

(He is an asshat)
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 10:29 PM
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22. Rangel Is Under Investigation
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 06:11 PM
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11. Oooh, slip-covered sofas!
See, she's just like a real person - I'm sold.

She does have an aggressive publicity machine. I wonder who's planting all the positive it's_almost_a_done_deal articles.

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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 07:14 PM
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16. Just your typical Park Avenue housewife and mother...
And takes the subway too. Probably followed by a security guard. She certainly suddenly already had a staff when she went to see the governor. Probably the same staff she's always had.

Sorry but she lost me with the "I'll make financial disclosure AFTER you appoint me." Her Kennedy is certainly showing.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 07:48 PM
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18. C'mon Dave, get it over with.
Enough foreplay already.
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